From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 24 23:03:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D8137692D for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD4WS6trgz4P8W for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 06ON3fqQ060142; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:03:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:03:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Aryeh Friedman cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Ask stupid questions and you'll get a stupid answers, was: Technological advantages over Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> <58202623-bbf7-eda0-5cb5-fb4749e91e20@watters.ws> <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu> <800f33cd-0dc1-1ae9-2262-a374bf8c10dd@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200724170348.51f108ec@archlinux> <1273868562.6647660.1595604615652@mail.yahoo.com> <20200724183331.6363d69c@archlinux> <20200724210127.7d05e22bd81b95388adf32ba@sohara.org> <20200724215949.854b5bc9199b5ae2e6678dc0@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BD4WS6trgz4P8W X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@monochrome.org has no SPF policy when checking 71.163.255.121) smtp.mailfrom=chris@monochrome.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.33 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.52)[-0.518]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.26)[0.264]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.32)[-0.315]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:03:50 -0000 I wasn't going to go down this hole, but here we go. See below. On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 5:00 PM Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:52:51 -0400 >> Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >>> Let add one more complication the client wants us to auto populate >>> the MySQL DB from our webapp DB which is on a physically separate >>> machine, but refuses to buy a second license for the device DB >>> software and thus we are forced to do our development/alpha testing >>> on live data (i.e. we *MUST* have completely working backups made >>> every 15 mins or so). >> >> Ugh! I really don't miss end-user facing work :) There's >> something nice about having sysadmins as the most demanding >> customers. [ snip ] > the VP of Engineering (who held the programmers job before April) > refused to answer the following question saying it was irrelevant to > having two programs updating the physical DB at once: "Are there any > concurrency issues we need to aware when auto populating the patient > data?" (ok "refused" is too polite of a description for what he > actually said "don't go down that rabbit hole, this conversation is > over!" [and hangs up on us by slamming the phone down].... this > despite direct orders from the CEO to give all possible aid and > answers). I wish I could be surprised at this. It's very common for top-level employees in $DEPARTMENT to get promoted to manager or VP of $DEPARTMENT. But if I'm a good software engineer, that doesn't mean I'd make a good manager (or executive). They are entirely different skill sets. I've learned this many times. [ snip and snip again ] -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org