From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 3 23:26:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3BC1065673 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EF08FC1C for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-249-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.249.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7003DC39; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:26:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o53NQEtM004663; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:26:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:26:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andy Hiscock Message-Id: <20100604012613.f140917a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <929.51813.qm@web26108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <929158.22715.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <125527.66409.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <68898.63609.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20100603234321.06784375.freebsd@edvax.de> <922734.44548.qm@web26101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20100604003342.c33b39d0.freebsd@edvax.de> <965757.87919.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20100604010333.91e1c3e5.freebsd@edvax.de> <929.51813.qm@web26108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:26:22 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:18:48 +0000 (GMT), Andy Hiscock wrote: > right scrolling to to top... Gonna go back to VHS here.. > Do a clean install as far as i'm concerned "freebsd-update" only > works for patches and not for OS upgrades from experiences or > considering ubuntu who's updates works. The freebsd-update program REALLY WORKS for OS updates. It works for patches (i. e. staying within a certain release) and even across major releases (e. g. from 7.2 to 8.0). As I mentioned before: There's MORE you have to take care of. If your applications are made for a version 7 system, and you suddenly have a version 8 system, problems may occur, for example if a library is required that's not present anymore. > Have to say after 2 years of using BSD am seriously > disappointed with FreeBSD, every other OS perform a > clean upgrade except.... I'm sad to hear that, as it contradicts my own experiences, and surely those of other FreeBSD users. There are users who update their OS and applications once a week, and others once a month; others perform the update when a new patchlevel is offered, and others do stay with the same system for years ("install once, then use"). How you handle things absolutely depends on your goals and requirements. As FreeBSD leaves you the freedom to decide what to do, YOU have to decide. That's what system administration basically is: Decisions lead by knowledge, experience and facts. > With not support to fix online. As I said, the mailing list is not a "free support center" with "support" in terms of what you usually get when paying for a maintenance contract. But did YOU already try to fix it? You got so much suggestions of what to do and how. I'm missing your cooperation. It won't fix itself, sorry. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...