From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 14 22:26:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19898 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19893 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp1659.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.249.123]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05029; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04137; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:26:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:26:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: tim@localhost Reply-To: ac199@hwcn.org To: Mikhail Teterin cc: Subject: Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting. In-Reply-To: <199807150413.AAA13072@xxx.video-collage.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Mikhail Teterin wrote: [...] > From: Mikhail Teterin > Message-Id: <199807150413.AAA13072@xxx.video-collage.com> > Subject: Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting. [...] > First, I do not see anything wrong with Sender listing multiples. > Second, what's wrong with relying on To: and/or Cc:? Well, for starters because your message that I'm responding to right now does not include any To: or Cc: headers. Further reasons: extra special logic to recognize chat@FreeBSD.ORG as being the same as freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG. Repeat for any other aliases that might appear. Consider a message x-posted to -chat and -alpha. I am not subscribed to -alpha, however, my filter sees -alpha in the Cc: header. Since my filter automatically recognizes new (FreeBSD) mailing-lists and performs certain actions based on this, it will think I've subscribed to -alpha. Not Good. Even worse if someone Cc:'s a mythical mailing list. This is still going to screw people who subscribe each -list to a different address. Eg. -hackers to freebsd-hackers@time.cdrom.com. Finally, those headers are not altogether reliable. > I just find it silly to duplicate messages on the hub, when they > can easily be replicated by the receiver (if he/she wants to) for > some sort of archiving. The Internet gets plenty of traffic from > dummies already... This isn't a problem when a message is only posted to the proper -lists. I certainly don't feel guilty for the few resources it costs hub to send me the few _proper_ crossposts. Those crossposts are a drop in the relative bucket. Really, your argument about resources is bogus. The only way that this becomes an issue is if cross-posting becomes rampant, and if cross-posting becomes rampant, we may as well forget the whole idea of distinct -lists and just create one "freebsd-mumalist" to which all messages are posted. -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message