From nobody Wed Jun 5 00:24:35 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vv7Wh5Jdzz5N4LH for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 00:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick.macklem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com (mail-pg1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Vv7Wh1Mt0z4Pb6; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 00:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick.macklem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-656d8b346d2so4432762a12.2; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 17:24:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1717547086; x=1718151886; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=R3yIZt7vMJGpOX/X8lVrbfZtbPMr95g0CciFsfCojgQ=; b=DRUAYEk4HMKiR/cm+p8UIq7rY+4gREiZtwoDvHhVm5ifwplfqMBby/jucuhCwyxbHT VUNsT8v5mCFWu1IBPhSOonb5p42L2NVLlsJ3I7TbF5k7kTNjcwZfLatEU33Uthc2Kt8v VgI+TW+yiSZCfk7aR/p3ASDf1vy++IvXH0umb8sf0WheCk2EIuRAWdwmg7awZLevM8xR bBx3wEwbwFROC45uhhloowGgWl71Kne5XalXo3jksxLPgOQuUy1saMgIOLTVZzYODC65 Btb3NKL/ABAlniqFp0p3Fi6jnsptse78K0vvaYY1Ta8GEdF7ces6iJw0khzOfJu7o7ry M7OQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717547086; x=1718151886; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=R3yIZt7vMJGpOX/X8lVrbfZtbPMr95g0CciFsfCojgQ=; b=FZfWylrV/B1TYS2h+e7hQh+IPKcbDTxz9ErE6OOKTf9AQp0zv5RLtIXKcJ5k9GAab8 qjsXGW7po5qX1PuQQ1KM/1lQKcK9WEfGqTKwXK3BOhAdW5yazTibTrgc7i3k9he7BGmS m15v1jNwE/aWGIft0vSbqZHBVZI2o5zCYepmv6O+RwCSZ2KMl3XiQQRHkH0V+ejUzHm7 eb1PyNq0X8Qqe6aT+H1DYD9GNIfxP072JrkU0k6jDG+PmZyE752hzqu1WDtndhvCMlEp dsy5eJ6bLf9BVTHFmEcAL2gV8xXtl5hgVXV4TeiF9D1mSS+TDfA+3UQzXnXGYUEVMo8P a2oA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVWGTvkyQQCFLGLluh2ipHVSDqNKRI9xt3RXqcDoXrKlg+2LsQ1koPP8+9IqtUk8eQ5Xi8Nbq1mt3TWD1M7/BbK3KcvmfF28WDfkLLmnC+cuwl5vL+/H6IkpEBX7Z/0u3Ml X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwjNw7PTxhwfHQYli2C4tnb48PHRQArBr304hYsYovzBtEATJO/ gPbI6W/OTOEhRNVAwP6OSefj//RsbiACOfnvWwQ48eM8dkAIu7SfiCjOsok3kHuX4wOcMCywIIq QMyCy4OxiG8kbfGTuLZXCi5XDhQ3u X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH4d3HkPYooJV2fGQ8TyUJhtuKcWbn/aKyf1ELlwC+R0QCSscjYVPYW2slO1vKMMNHVhMl2K2Uh4fM2yEaJBpc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8b88:b0:2bf:b2b0:c49a with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2c27db1f872mr1083693a91.25.1717547085963; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <489849ca-a404-fb54-81d1-d62ea18c5832@FreeBSD.org> <254a0b5e-72d9-f93e-0c49-82b50a35db41@quip.cz> <3bbacbac-9238-f29d-653c-86d13085afe0@quip.cz> <4ea542mqtue7ety23gpgxborpl4brx3fewhgy5p23ozivjzeay@dyk4oxvgs7c5> In-Reply-To: From: Rick Macklem Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:24:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating smbfs(5) and removing it before FreeBSD 14 To: Alan Somers Cc: John Hixson , Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Rick Macklem , David Chisnall , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vv7Wh1Mt0z4Pb6 On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Alan Somers wr= ote: > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. = Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and = know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@= uoguelph.ca. > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:52=E2=80=AFPM John Hixson = wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 03:27:54PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > > > On 16/06/2022 15:56, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: > > > > > On 24/01/2022 16:13, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > So, I think Mark and Yuri are correct and looking at up to date > > > > > > Illumos sources is the next step. > > > > > > (As I mentioned, porting the Apple sources is beyond what I am > > > > > > willing to attempt.) > > > > > > > > > > > > rick > > > > > > > > > > Hello Rick, > > > > > I would like to ask you I there is some progress with porting new= er > > > > > SMBFS / CIFS version to FreeBSD? Did you find Illumos sources as = a > > > > > possibility where to start porting? > > > > Yes. I have the stuff off Illumos-gate, which I think is pretty up-= to-date > > > > and I agree that it should be easier than the Apple stuff to port i= nto > > > > FreeBSD. I don't think it is "straightforward" as someone involved > > > > with Illumos said, due to the big differences in VFS/locking, but..= . > > > > > > > > Having said the above, I have not done much yet. I've been cleaning= up > > > > NFS stuff, although I am nearly done with that now. > > > > I do plan on starting to work on it soon, but have no idea if/when = I > > > > will have something that might be useful for others. > > > > > > I'm glad to hear that. > > > > > > > > We have more and more problems with current state of mount_smbfs.= I > > > > > would be really glad if "somebody" can do the heroic work of > > > > > implementing SMBv2 in FreeBSD. > > > > > Maybe it's time to start some fundraising for sponsoring this wor= k? > > > > Well, funding isn't an issue for me (I'm just a retired guy who doe= s this > > > > stuff as a hobby). However, if there is someone else who is capable= of > > > > doing it if they are funded, I have no problem with that. > > > > I could either help them, or simply stick with working on NFS and l= eave > > > > SMBv23 to them. > > > > > > > > Sorry, but I cannot report real progress on this as yet, rick > > > > > > No need to sorry. I really appreciate your endless work on NFS and th= at you > > > still have kind of interest to try porting SMBv2/3. > > > Unfortunately I don't know anybody else trying to do this tremendous = work. > > > > > > > I am working on a from scratch implementation of smbfs. I do not have > > any kind of time estimate since it is in my spare time. I chose this > > route after spending considerable time looking at Apple and Solaris > > implementations and wanting something without all of the legacy 1.0 > > crap. I do have a very minimal working FUSE version at this point, but > > there is much to do, and even more to abide by the various > > specifications. > > > > I just thought I'd share in case anyone is interested. Best of luck with it. I never got far into porting the Illumos code. rick > > > > - John > > I am indeed interested. smbfs is an important feature to have. Let > me know if you need help with the fuse parts. > -Alan