From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 11:58:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81C11883; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h.highsecure.ru (mail6.highsecure.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:22a6::99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CFC72F20; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from medway.cl.cam.ac.uk (medway.cl.cam.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:212:238:21c:c0ff:fe4b:2b85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: vsevolod@highsecure.ru) by h.highsecure.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B233D3003A0; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53C668C9.9030209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:58:01 +0100 From: Vsevolod Stakhov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev Subject: Re: svn commit: r361646 - in head/net/samba36: . files References: <53C322A7.2090705@marino.st> <20140714003112.GA54756@mouf.net> <53C451FA.2020304@marino.st> <20140715170501.GA73101@FreeBSD.org> <53C5618F.2020104@FreeBSD.org> <20140716094453.GA53961@FreeBSD.org> <53C65677.8060603@FreeBSD.org> <20140716111328.GB82901@FreeBSD.org> <53C6638E.6000801@FreeBSD.org> <20140716115304.GA5861@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20140716115304.GA5861@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-ports-head , "Timur I. Bakeyev" , Steve Wills , svn-ports-all , marino@freebsd.org, "ports-committers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:58:04 -0000 On 16/07/14 12:53, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:35:42PM +0100, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: >> On 16/07/14 12:13, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>> I don't see why it cannot work the old way, just as described in PHB >>> section 5.2.2.1. >> that was lie over all the history of the ports. Indeed, if we define >> something like 'bump revision if something is wrong with a port' then we >> are in trouble, as different maintainers have different viewpoints about >> what is wrong and what is not. Hence, if you have more constructive >> suggestions than to throw out pkg I would appreciate to hear them. > > Can you elaborate more on why we are in trouble if I don't bump revisions > on typo fixes, mastersite updates or adding of LICENSE knob? What is the > breakage scenario here (for pkg users)? Again, I have no objections about licenses/comments/whatever. I want actually merely to figure out, which manifest's fields are *significant*. At this point, I can easily change this list without insulting users. On the contrary, after 1.3 release that would be hard. I suggest thus to stop bikescheding and switch to constructive discussion and define how should we distinguish one package from another. And no, we *cannot* rely on port version/revision/epoch only! -- Vsevolod Stakhov