From owner-cvs-all Wed Nov 28 2:15:54 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D536F37B419; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA63202; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:15:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vega.vega.com (h180.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.180]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA85338; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:15:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fASADjY34603; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:13:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3C04B97B.159D50A2@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:16:27 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: mike@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Meaningless commit messages [was: cvs commit: ports/www/linux-opera Makefile] References: <200111272221.AAA47815@ipcard.iptcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: [portmgr trimmed, because it isn't a portmgr issue] > Maxim Sobolev writes: > > So, could you please explain me how from the above log one could > > see "why he did it". > > My log message explains precisely why I made that commit. I do not > consider the change itself necessary, but someone did, and chose to > express his opinion in such a confrontational manner that I find it > hard to regard him as a constructive contributor. I still do not see why you decided to expose your frustation to readers of cvs-all list and users of freshports service. > A more elaborate explanation is that the commit was made to comply > with one of the many arbitrary and idiosyncratic conventions that make > working on the ports collection such a frustrating experience for many > of us. No, in this particular case this isn't quite "one of the many arbitrary and idiosyncratic conventions". We have estabilished convention for ports' version numbers, which doesn't allow for a `-' delimiter there. This convention helps automatic update tools to separate name of the port from its version. As I've already explained in my message to obrien, in this commit you have effectively changed package version number from incorrect to a correct one. As a result, package version number seen by automatic update tools has decreased from 20011122.1 to 6.0.20011122.1, which needs to be addressed by PORTEPOCH bump, BTW. > I've been in so many flame wars over so much unecessary > brokenness in the ports system over time that I've restricted my > involvment in the ports collection to a strict minimum, and it will > remain that way until TPTB demonstrate a willingness to fix broken > tools Patches are welcome, you know... > instead of just adopting policies that shuffle such brokenness > under the carpet, and refusing to acknowledge the existence and value > of tools such as porteasy. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message