From nobody Wed Aug 6 21:10:41 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4by2yY68Rnz64DTJ for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4by2yY3yXnz3FYn for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3b78b2c6ecfso128548f8f.0 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 14:11:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=submonkey-net.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1754514653; x=1755119453; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=qWwDaEKreiQjFneEUKKShUaH52ruFLCpIICPsCseeBk=; b=Oxyy0gWHPw3PP6jiPuzA2YEE7CIg/3DIxeY8FVKYOGioW82CWB/jpv3TkuCtS0WeEf ftNYjSMSUop2kSIUbMaXDCs3QIOKQUcdTG6I4YBF1m2y371/UgHyU40bnKm7dV6itZ2x nAD64TIyQvoNaHpfunm8WUKSug6Kt6an9jBraEbpr+fzJg9InmVZA896S3DkRsPLT17K mGHyOJulAZbLhmTaH/OxynJs9foBiQYyBPHEsIAo/rEo3ZW8+Id4QJpchNtoWC2JmZWO jywmypRRJYvNTNVQEpmzlbQXF9G/Oajib+joewhKvHMO4fcET7R2E4m4/uKreJuEjYeI XRlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1754514653; x=1755119453; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qWwDaEKreiQjFneEUKKShUaH52ruFLCpIICPsCseeBk=; b=kvyihvHdBsh7JxYdA+AS+DtI/0v16zM7NPV0qoq7PMRURhN93gMKXjZDj9qiAHRriA K2JHxIHDqdXlGbxxWrbAJeN+G9QkXyVSxSXRBayjjiMXFFg1kn3eGWlOEJbukPUZfF0a 2gcgO/Ie/lCdUP876o1gmTLwwjSPxq2stI7YV72PJXTEZO/IhZzieEQH+t4MnPHPSA+m TC49T+6pVep9c45pWs9/T3/WnC3t9Re9Ricaq35CGLj9VqItILbbK641ORQm1i0QHQE8 6BWatIJf6Z4JEn30xSuxBbyQwUqXJGZvk6xSRdk1vs7+TKTLZa+B+OrUneQZA+bWUulK xEgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy/ybRtuBhrgyTgP0fpG3MvnGaSf+9PsnNjEENVqp3z2BElfNNC BI4OoaDuouaqZRSrPEY/thXQUO3hzQxbHeEiHesb7847+LZcnsKDITMmYUAkPChcKl0= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvwPpsNjIWFpZJvbttO8tZ3diqx/dqGXusl5nIMFUPNLtoaXJ55kuH1XHwWLby viOmfg4JNSQxjfAXTcLszTT2JKdl9oz7g4rhyk0vS2iU4rfh97XrFuu68wmr/mRMTMSJU8CUmvb FxjZYJn3fIic9bAQuxyqSW0AdeYzjI7K5bdLSuOSoFVwEJNVlTvAvIPxRQItCBwv5KuuinKaf1K C6qEMPl/7O40HYaKg+q/m6rt2AlAVOgJU0BmhekkGYRx241OCQV07hfAHsuu5kBx32SoudoqJq2 QAI0tnFmaPrvAqqFVj5qA3S7hbdknQLyjuLcKtVSBMCEcww6LUhP45RVls0PqyTyKZqaAC6YlI6 2BLM0MWxPJaFUcIVzja9kzlnjcxfumHBQIufDp9ycsbc+svZZ/3bIMu435KSEOwoYkA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEMKBFtkEYMAJIY0XDmnjIeG0GKNDB0/as2L1rNiKaK/hsxSv934ojEMQwgrCLZve03qULQDg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:400b:b0:3a6:d145:e2cc with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3b8f4166013mr3854730f8f.15.1754514652494; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (host-80-42-172-59.as13285.net. [80.42.172.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-459ded356b9sm128016225e9.12.2025.08.06.14.10.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2025 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ceri Davies List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 22:10:41 +0100 Message-Id: <742CE190-C37F-4665-874E-E3851060E18D@submonkey.net> References: Cc: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: To: vermaden X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (22G86) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4by2yY3yXnz3FYn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] > On 6 Aug 2025, at 18:40, vermaden wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> Because that=E2=80=99s what you asked for. >> Why would the command do anything other than that? >> If it did not, what command should and would you oppose it existing? >=20 > The problem is that the same 'pkg delete -af' command - will behave DIFFER= ENTLY with PKGBASE and without PKGBASE on the same FreeBSD version system - t= hat is the center of the problem. >=20 No, it has the same behaviour. The result on the system may be different, but that is true of many, many co= mmands that make assumptions about the existing configuration of a system. Ceri=