From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 11:28:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9DA16A418 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5A713C457 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUF00ABTEJYO5U0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0ABSjvt058919; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:28:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:28:45 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20080110110052.GB10155@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Wilko Bulte Message-id: <4786016D.4000200@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <88854.1199953554@critter.freebsd.dk> <4785D9CB.5080909@gmail.com> <4785E8A0.30806@gmail.com> <20080110110052.GB10155@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Dominic Fandrey , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:28:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wilko Bulte wrote: > Quoting Aryeh M. Friedman, who wrote on Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at > 04:42:56AM -0500 .. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>> In message <478556AD.6090400@bsdforen.de>, Dominic Fandrey >>>> writes: >>>>> The first problem is [...] >>>> No. The first problem FreeBSD has, is that the users do not >>>> financially support enough full-time developers. >>> There are some possible solutions to the lack of funding >>> without having to ask corps for huge donations (they would >>> actually improve the amount of contributed work also in all >>> likellyhood.... see my blog >>> http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php) >>> >>> >> Forgot to mention that the approach outline is fairly compatible >> with the BSD style of doing stuff (one of the other people >> involved with the effort is actually drafting a BSD style license >> that is 100% compatible with the current one (Free)BSD >> license)... see > > We need more licenses like we need a 3rd or 4th leg. What is wrong > with the standard BSD license please? It makes funding unpleasent but needed projects more difficult then it needs to be (I am not an expert on the exact goals but adding one single sentence to the current license would suffice to repair the primary causes) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhgFtjRvRjGmHRgQRAi1pAJ9z54ZFtZRNEoR+ULmSa+RR3h5iFwCgpwzN kR9IDinpbgsHiGkNBJartHU= =IsrX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----