From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 21:57:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5773D35 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772508FC13 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id AD5D65F322 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:51:21 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=rHdcO5LsmC/Oa6Dmk3CBaAV67BQdJ3640YC6TWg+0s8h14eymWnoeduKc9VKsf+5WCqasVYo3evrylEnSjyS7wY9UyfVnxDTnjGZDpL9CLyF/LqzvH6xVTMXKOFi3va735Bmy7Uhq9yM84r0CsalHTS2ZEZzV4QXiLlUERXwYKk=; c=nofws; d=dabus.com; q=dns; s=aegir1 Received: from nunki.dabus.com (unknown [192.168.10.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPSA id E1D1B5F2FE for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:51:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:51:18 -0700 From: Eric S Pulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: confessions of a FreeBSD purist Message-ID: <20121117145118.076a341a@nunki.dabus.com> In-Reply-To: <50A72E72.1000205@teksavvy.com> References: <50A72E72.1000205@teksavvy.com> Organization: Dabus X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; i386-unknown-openbsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:57:58 -0000 On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:28:02 -0500 Matthew Pope wrote: > Dear FreeBSD community, > > It has been wonderful being a full-fledged member of this community, > an administrator running FreeBSD on bare hardware (in his basement) > for years. This is the coolest, hippiest, historically pure, and > most technically advanced UNIX community on the planet (I'm one of > the more long in the tooth members.) I used Dummynet about four > years ago to replay bad Internet weather and prove my hypothesis of > what servers caused failure in a multi-tier, forex trading system > failure. > > This week I reformatted the last two machines in my basement running > FreeBSD. I feel really guilty. I installed Ubuntu (10.04) because > its GUI is great, its very well supported, and I had a heck of a time > keeping my FreeBSD jails configured and stable, and I'd stopped > running a web site for a while now. > > I installed 10.04 instead of 12.04 because on another machine I had > attempted to upgrade to 12.04 LTS while running the dual boot > configuration, and it trashed my MBR (a known defect.) You have been > warned, etc. It also has that radically different GUI, and really > annoying, an entirely different directory tree on the disk. FreeBSD > contributors would never tamper so much with something that worked so > well. > > However, I do need to run a web site again, and I am more than > convinced on the superior performance, and hardening possible with > FreeBSD bind, and Apache running in jails. However, I'd like to run > FreeBSD in a VMWare or VirtualBox VMs. This gives me the ability to > take snapshots to recover easily when I break something. Computing > resources are like candy these days. My fast box has 4 screaming > fast processors with 8 GB of RAM, and that is a three year old > machine. There is no reason FreeBSD cannot run with adequate > performance in a VM and run bind, and perhaps on another physical > box, have a FreeBSD VM running Apache, both in jails. I know others > are doing it. > > Could anyone be kind enough to recommend a free, or share their own > FreeBSD VM image that has bind pre-configured in a jail, and / or an > Apache web server pre-configured in a jail, for a non-commercial > site? With this configuration I can revert after breaking something > as an over-eager, semi-qualified system administrator. > > Cheers, > Matthew (in Toronto) Seriously? You're going to run some VM image that a guy on the internet gives you? Boy am I glad you switched over to Linux, good luck with that.