From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 4 15:41:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (ussenterprise.ufp.org [208.185.30.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA0137B403; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bicknell@ussenterprise.ufp.org) Received: (from bicknell@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f74MejC87934; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:40:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bicknell) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:40:45 -0400 From: Leo Bicknell To: Bernd Walter Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, oppermann@telehouse.ch, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 303,000 routes in kernel Message-ID: <20010804184045.A87444@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Leo Bicknell , Bernd Walter , sthaug@nethelp.no, oppermann@telehouse.ch, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010804215529.C7176@cicely20.cicely.de> <32301.996956619@verdi.nethelp.no> <20010805002233.A7991@cicely20.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010805002233.A7991@cicely20.cicely.de>; from ticso@mail.cicely.de on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 12:22:33AM +0200 Organization: United Federation of Planets Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 12:22:33AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > The routing "hardware" can't look into the full routing table because > todays routing tables are serveral megabytes big. We're rapidly getting off topic here, but for the record... Route caching has not delivered acceptable performance for "core" routers for some time. As the internet got larger and used more, the percentage of the total routing table that was in use (and hence cached) grew larger and larger, exhausing the smaller, faster cache memories. All of the current designs used in the core, and many of the edge designs as well keep the "full table" (distilled to the minimum amount of information to forward a packet) available to the hardware forwarding engine. This includes Cisco's GSR line, and Junipers M-series routers. While working differently, Cisco's 7200's and 3600's also do the "full table thing". Looking at next generation designs, all vendors agree the only designs that will work in the core are designs that will work. So, unless the packet needs local processing (eg ICMP pings) a packet is a packet is a packet to today's routers. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message