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Date:      Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:18:52 +0100
From:      Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org>
To:        Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life
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On 2020-02-21 15:12, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> On February 21, 2020 8:07:57 AM CST, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2020-02-20 19:50, Ed Maste wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Modern laptops need an I2C touchpad driver, which isn't in the base
>>>> system yet. It's now available in the ports collection and can be
>>>> built standalone fairly easily; it works fine on my Lenovo X1
>> Carbon
>>>> 7th generation.
>>>
>>> I'd be very interested in that - can you provide a more specific
>>> pointer than "in the ports collection"?:-)
>>
>> It's sysutils/iichid, added quite recently
>> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/iichid/
>>
>> I hope it is added to the base system soon;
>
> Not to the base system, please.

Could you elaborate on that? I.e. do you not want the FreeBSD kernel
to support modern hardware, or do you not want the FreeBSD kernel to
support hardware that is only relevant for laptops/desktops, or...?

Having kernel modules in ports is problematic, I don't think anyone
can disagree about that (but of course I may be wrong). There may be
reasons to do it anyway, here it seems that it's due to code that
needs more testing/experience and perhaps improvement before adding it
to the base system / standard kernel - seems eminently reasonable to
me.

--Per



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