From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 1 10:59:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375A16A41C; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from supermarine.crossflight.co.uk (supermarine.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B3A43D58; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:59:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk (mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk [195.172.72.201]) by supermarine.crossflight.co.uk (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j61AxOYt012501; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:59:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from guy@crossflight.co.uk) Received: from [195.172.72.7] (northrop.crossflight.co.uk) by mailscan0.crossflight.co.uk (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.0.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:59:24 +0100 Message-ID: <42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:59:23 +0100 From: Guy Dawson Organization: Crossflight Limited User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org> <42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net> <8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com> <20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20050204a X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-supermarine_global_rules_20050204a (2004-01-11) on supermarine.crossflight.co.uk Cc: JM , =?windows-1252?Q?=95_=95?= Subject: Re: AMD64 X2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:59:29 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 11:44:02AM +1000, ? ? wrote: > >>Page 2 of the second last link has this to say, regarding >>compatibility of the X2 chips with existing motherboards: >>http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397&p=2 >>"... >>On the desktop, the Athlon 64 X2 series is fully compatible with all >>Socket-939 motherboards. All you need is a BIOS update and you're >>good to go." >> >>I'd be truly amazed if this was the case for all motherboards, >>although it might be in the spec... > > > It really should be that simple. All the external interfaces and pins > are the same for Athlon64-939 and Athlon64 X2. They have the same > thermal specifications, etc... It's the only way AMD could reasonably do it. To require a different motherboard for X1 (?) and X2 chips would have the mobo makers rioting! Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd guy@crossflight.co.uk 07973 797819 01753 776104 ********************************************************************** This email contains the views and opinions of a Crossflight Limited employee and at this stage are in no way a direct representation oF Crossflight Limited. Crossflight Limited is an international express courier, mailing and logistics service provider, and is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority to conduct General Insurance Business. This communication and any attachments are confidential and may be protected from disclosure. We endorse no advice or opinion contained in this communication that is not the subject of a contract between the recipient and ourselves. If you have received it in error please notify us immediately and note that any storage, use or disclosure is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Those communicating with us by electronic mail will be deemed to have accepted the risks associated with interception, amendment, loss and late or incomplete delivery. They will also be deemed to have consented to our intercepting and monitoring such communications. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. We strongly recommend that you check this email with your own virus software as Crossflight Limited will not be held responsible for any damage caused by viruses as a result of opening this email. **********************************************************************