From owner-cvs-all Wed Jun 28 22:33:43 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.bayouhome.net (ns1.bayouhome.net [64.29.16.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CAA37BAF9; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glennpj@bayouhome.net) Received: from gforce.johnson.home (p757.accesscom.net [206.160.4.122] (may be forged)) by ns1.bayouhome.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20919; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:34:47 -0500 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17876; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:29:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:29:26 -0500 From: Glenn Johnson To: John Baldwin Cc: Brian Somers , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/isc-dhcp - Imported sources Message-ID: <20000629002926.A17817@gforce.johnson.home> Mail-Followup-To: Glenn Johnson , John Baldwin , Brian Somers , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, David O'Brien References: <20000628101529.A63423@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <200006281721.KAA03680@john.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006281721.KAA03680@john.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:21:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:21:30AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > On 28-Jun-00 Glenn Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:55:03AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> On 27-Jun-00 David O'Brien wrote: > >> > >> >> I would vote for pulling the server stuff into contrib too. > >> > > >> > I'd really rather dike out the client from the isc-dhcp port > >> > instead. (for those systems that have /sbin/dhclient). > >> > >> I prefer this option. Most people don't need a DHCP server. > > > > Just my 2 cents here but isn't FreeBSD suppose to be a server OS? So > > shouldn't a server OS have a DHCP server in the base system? > > By that argument we should import the apache web server, samba, or > something similar into the system. I do not think DHCP fits into the same category as a web server or samba, etc. I do not think you can just throw a blanket over all "servers" and say one is the same as another. > Being a server platform does not mean that you have to ship with lots > of servers, it means you provide a stable, well-preforming environment > on which one can run those servers. Agreed, but some would say that FreeBSD *does* ship with a lot of servers: sendmail, bind, sshd, rlogind, rshd, telnetd, ftpd, ntpd, nis, nfs, uucp, ... I just do not follow your logic. The other logic I do not follow is why take a package that has the client and the server (isc-dhcp) and install the client but not the server. In any event, I really do not care much about this issue of a DHCP server but I do care about the apparent attitude of "If it was not in BSD in the 80s then we do not want it now". If I am misjudging this then please enlighten me. -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@bayouhome.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message