From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Feb 24 0:16:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D3DE37BB42 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (3052 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:16:46 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 7ABFD38E2; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:16:41 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: early hangup causing exorbitant telecom fees In-Reply-To: from Tobias Ernst at "Feb 23, 0 05:26:14 pm" To: tobi@physcip.uni-stuttgart.de Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:16:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2179 Message-Id: <20000224081641.7ABFD38E2@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Tobias Ernst: > Could you please tell me, what was happening here (see below)? This > went on for 14 hours and caused me about 2300 DM telecom fees Welcome to the club! :-( I'm very sorry to hear this. First of all, with regard to the subject: this has nothing to do with "early hangup" it even looks like it has nothing to do with the ISDN part of i4b at all. > charge at least 0.12 DM per connect here). I have configured isdnd with > autodial and an idle timeout of 60 seconds, and it has worked for > months now, so why on earth to I get a *local* disconnect after just > one second here? I guess you are using some sort of PPP. I guess that your machine tried to reach the remote machine and somehow the login/authorization failed. The PPP layer then tried to reach the remote end again and again. > This is an i4b bug, isn't it? From what i see it is not a bug in the i4b ISDN code. In case you are using sppp, you might have been hit by the lcp-loop bug. > Why does it say "local > dissconnect / normal call cleareanc" when actually there must have been > some error? This are messages from the ISDN part of i4b. The PPP layer above it seemed to have closed the line and this is no error for the ISDN part. In fact they don't know each other and this is what it is meant to be. > And do you see any chance that I could argue the Telekom into not > having to pay this abhorrent sum? I have heard from similar cases, that it might be that the Telecom will have mercy. They never had mercy with me, anyway. I would not even think about telling them that you are running something unapproved like i4b on your side .... > (The remote site is an Ascend router > run *by the Telekom* for our University, so if it is an error on the > remote site, this could help a lot) IIRC the sppp loop bug was seen with Ascends. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message