From owner-cvs-all Sun Dec 13 13:54:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14038 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:54:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14031; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA02465; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:53:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (blaz@localhost) by gold.amis.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00845; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:45:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:45:24 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Mikael Karpberg cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile In-Reply-To: <199812131924.UAA10143@ocean.campus.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Ok, so I don't whine (about that :). I try and find out what broke, > and get into shape again. But maybe I haven't updated in 2-3 weeks, > and I can't remember all the "/etc/pam.conf"'s that went into the tree > since last time. It would be real handy with a "make check_etc" which > would list files missing, and (based on the RCS id and/or change dates) > what files have been updated, or which users/groups have been > added/removed. Actually, wouldn't even a text file with documentation on what to do help out in this situation? Ok, I can go and browse through the mailing list archives for any HEADS-UP messages and hope that I find all the important changes. But wouldn't it be much easier to just read some text file, which has a checklist of things to do, like: - check that user "foo" exists, if not create it - make sure you have file /etc/bar.conf - ... Putting this file in /usr/src and calling it something like README.FIRST would hopefully be enough for the clueless -current newbie to notice (if not, then we can't help them, really). I know that we have the upgrade instructions on the web, but somebody has to _find_ that first and we know from experience that it takes a lot of time for people to find important info like this (before asking stupid and often repeated questions on the newsgroups or mailing lists). If we put a file in the repository, everybody who is able to cvsup will get it right away in front of their face. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message