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Date:      Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:25:57 -0500
From:      Jeremy Messenger <mezz.freebsd@gmail.com>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports Mailing List <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: MATE 'base' desktop is ready for anyone to test it.
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
> On 7/27/12 3:44 PM, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jeremy Messenger
>> <mezz.freebsd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> The MATE base desktop (x11/mate-base) is ready to use and test. The
>>> MATE base is a very lite and lean desktop.
>> <snip>
>>
>> A bit of FAQ:
>>
>> Q: There is problem with pkg-plist.
>> A: Yes, I know about that. The reason why I leave complete @dirrm in
>> the pkg-plist, so that way I can comparing what's the most common
>> @dirrm for I can create matehier (like gnomehier).
>>
>> Q: When will MATE ports merge into FreeBSD ports tree.
>> A: Even thought if I finished everything with MATE. It won't be merged
>> into FreeBSD ports tree unless I get more people to help me with the
>> MATE project. Right now, I am only a person that work on MATE. I
>> prefer to be least three people.
>>
>> Q: If there is problem, where do I report to? Send a PR?
>> A: Please no PR. I hate GNATS, but we should use it when MATE merges
>> into FreeBSD ports tree though. For now, just send me an email or
>> gnome@FreeBSD.org.
>>
>> Q: Does MATE conflicts with GNOME 2/3?
>> A: No, it's complete parallel even in the ~/.* too.
>>
>> Q: Why you won't check on GDM?
>> A: Because it's a GNOME applications and I do not want to install any
>> extra dependency. :-) But if MATE folks fork the GDM and yes I will
>> work on it.
>>
>> Q: Is it easy to use MATE with GDM?
>> A: I think it should be easy as MATE does provide session files. I
>> think GDM will pick up that session and add in the list for which
>> desktop you want to log in.
>>
>> Q: Does the http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html works for MATE?
>> A: Yes, most of them. Same goes for HAL:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html
>
> Here's another Q&A for you.
>
> Is MATE compatible with GNOME 2 such that I can link my GNOME 2 apps to
> MATE libraries?  Will MATE include links for GNOME 2 libraries?  If not,
> could it?

MATE API is compatible with GNOME 2 only if you rename stuff in the
GNOME 2 apps source code.

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/migrating
https://github.com/benpicco/mate-scripts

I didn't do much of homework on this part yet at some point though, so
can't really give a 100% answer. Only thing that I have noticed error
in the script is that they had gdm -> mdm, which the mdm does not
exist. Maybe it did, but not today.

> Okay, those were three questions.  I think you see where I'm going.  If
> we wanted to yank GNOME 2 out in favor of MATE, how difficult would it
> be?  I'm not saying we would or that we're ready.  I'm just testing the
> waters.

We will find out when we start to dive into this step. :-)

Cheers,
Mezz


> Joe
>
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