From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 16:51:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054D816A421 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:51:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2543D48 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:51:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5GGloCX024254; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:47:50 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j5GGlm1a024251; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:47:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:47:47 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Darren Pilgrim Message-ID: <20050616164747.GB21733@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050615061009.GA11914@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <001501c5720b$aceb84d0$0b2a15ac@SMILEY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001501c5720b$aceb84d0$0b2a15ac@SMILEY> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: 'Vladimir Grebenschikov' , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, 'Matthew Emmerton' Subject: Re: HEADSUP: OpenBSD dhclient incoming X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:51:03 -0000 --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 05:38:10PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > From: Brooks Davis > > There are two issues here. First, if we're going to keep > > network_interfaces around, /etc/rc.d/dhclient should honor > > it and not start dhclient on interfaces not in either > > network_interfaces or removable interfaces. >=20 > I think network_interfaces should be gotten rid of entirely for two > reasons: >=20 > 1: It creates a synchronization issue between it and the ifconfig_* > lines and duplicates functionality. IIRC, rc.conf being out of sync in > this way has tripped up users in the past. >=20 > 2: There are real configurations in which some interfaces are not > available when netif is run at boot. One example is the many newer > mini-PCI wireless NICs that require a firmware upload. Devd is the > accepted tool for performing such tasks, but rcordering puts devd after > NETWORKING. The actions taken by devd must therefore include steps > taken by netif. Calling the rc.d scripts directly from devd avoids > local scripts that duplicate rc.d functionality. A similar situation > occurs for removable interfaces. I'm seriously considering removing the following variables: network_interfaces removable_interfaces pccard_ether If I do that I'll probably add a pair of new start/stop targets to /etc/rc.d/netif to replicate the remaining functions of pccard_ether and nuke /etc/pccard_ether. I won't get to this until the week of the 27th because I'm going to be gone all next week. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCsa0zXY6L6fI4GtQRAqE3AKCsivo3IK6MAGZgRta0goafulvbvQCgjAIo tB8nV2p0wAKQvn80C/XG0Jk= =wwkZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO--