From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 16 00:27:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A124E378 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KnxV0ZnZz46PQ for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1581812830; x=1584404830; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=rhhJQ8x0m6EHu4uYtzGtmerT+kMZZ4EigS+DzuK7zcw=; b=kx+VNglBQPZ7Za0xLhxbZ8b+2IVZe1P2Sf9MujXD2XjmRiMRcNsSCTqwbu1Aeh18gChRtbIi5sK7WwmSVw3Nqt6VBK1mSrD24/pxaQv38KXL4XZHiQWBuToHPXkSJI0mQYiGGU9n0V+FreHxiAriMH51MvsbQxB1thwt8hg39GU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi43NDAwMDAwMDU2OGUxYy5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:27:00 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 15 Feb 2020 19:26:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1j37lx-000HhS-Of; Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:26:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:26:56 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-Id: <20200216002656.83d55598023fed6088fb9a23@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200216010058.73f83086@archlinux> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <1848571509.3253011.1581719423989@mail.yahoo.com> <20200215195303.464e585a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200215202033.6c856b8f7639b304d96e68ce@sohara.org> <20200215215825.5d3c9a1a@archlinux> <20200215211542.e8cc2827fc4664ea4bcad918@sohara.org> <20200215223449.355a9ac9@archlinux> <20200215223649.40196f37@archlinux> <20200215232623.7995b06e@archlinux> <20200215235822.f804ffc6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200215232931.5a9132b2e83daa2d0a06dac8@sohara.org> <20200216010058.73f83086@archlinux> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KnxV0ZnZz46PQ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=kx+VNglB; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[ip: (-0.26), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.53), asn: 7381(0.26), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[rocketmail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:27:11 -0000 On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 01:00:58 +0100 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > The "blue screen" I often see, when I take a look at the displays used > by public service vehicles, lead to Windows as the used embedded > operating system. Apart from this a friend has got some inside > regarding specialized embedded systems. There at least was a tendency > to migrate from BSD or Linux to Windows. Seriously, when I use the > public bus to go to work, I often see a blue screen and some > output of error messages, with paths using backslashes. That's not an embedded system, think engine management controller (and the other dozen or so hidden computers in a modern car), TV, washing machine, fly-by-wire controllers ... Things with no user interface. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith