From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 19:31:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 990A9FA2 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x232.google.com (mail-qc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B56029EC for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c9so1766646qcz.37 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T+OP4EaqlTB3lUnuBFdaGqi78c5rgGYaQ6LtEki707g=; b=vJx9/Hsr7+SYNgAO0BA8KuaMTYQkmGlJOnRRnDaoaFK2GoxqGb/rEo1jirFfZOllrZ 8ya+GUl1JTxFlgWgONeE1DIU78pvRwwyMj4ZHlZz2AlWEeLZd7cXZT6pR4/rK//kdjqc /ZN+78uuyvta5aW4qPMQbdTU3IFPUVMv4cODHtSoTeIAnBPQxo0vDtTxh0E9R7CoUeUL m+B55XtteODZkG3K+rrplLofXkySHaeRB/VAkNf8/DdhAlOeMRQFftIqAHlM6wjm5/q5 kAfULokNjNEsxpVqN9tLlN3MNah3xb9DxA3icMiPJEJtTfjYFx8hk42I/uA+ZmwhZ948 tKfg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.32.66 with SMTP id g60mr19900259qgg.17.1404502291524; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: carpeddiem@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.49.239 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53B69B88.4060803@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:31:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: inZY19LktYW26OL2vNKsdAP06no Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG From: Ed Maste To: Pete French Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:31:32 -0000 On 4 July 2014 08:24, Pete French wrote: > > I am following this with some interest - I was under the impression that > from 9.3 onwards vt(4) was included by default. is this not tre ? Do > I still need to recompile to use vt ? In HEAD syscons(4) and vt(4) are now both compiled in by default in the GENERIC kernel. Syscons remains the default at the moment; you can set the loader tunable kern.vty=vt to choose vt(4) instead. Vt is selected automatically if booting via UEFI on amd64. Both stable/10 and stable/9 require a recompile to use vt(4). The plan is to merge these changes from HEAD in time for 10.1, but 9.3 will not have them. Note that vt(4) enables vty switching from Xorg, but WITH_NEW_XORG generally should not depend on vt(4). X should work fine, just without the ability to switch back to a vty. If WITH_NEW_XORG fails on certain hardware I think it'll be independent of the use of sc(v) vs vt(4). -Ed