From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 00:55:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CDE1065675 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gritton.org) Received: from gritton.org (gritton.org [161.58.222.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1F88FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gritton.org) Received: from glorfindel.gritton.org (c-76-27-80-223.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [76.27.80.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by gritton.org (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5A0tT8H029338; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <484DD100.6030904@gritton.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:55:28 -0600 From: James Gritton User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> References: <484CC690.9020303@elischer.org> <20080609174826.Q83875@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <484D8EDD.3040103@elischer.org> <484DA546.9060005@gritton.org> <484DAB87.6040706@elischer.org> <484DB357.80103@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <484DB357.80103@quip.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7416/Mon Jun 9 15:10:04 2008 on gritton.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kinda headsup.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:55:31 -0000 Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Are there somebody who can shed some light on "what is planned in Jail > / Vimage" for near future? I read many times "we talked about it at > the developers summit" or "we will publish them on a wiki", but it is > a long time ago and real informations are still kind of secret. > I am working on page http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails and I will be glad > to publish as more informations as I can. > For example, what is morphing symlinks? Or I know Verio has VPS on > FreeBSD with fair-share resource management - are there some plans to > have it in the src tree? Are you in contact with them? My own place in things is currently not adding features so much as working on an underlying framework where these different things can be added in an extensible and hopefully backward-compatible way. Yes, this comes from talk at the recent develop summit, where there concern (including my own) that there's already a "jail" system and new and improved virtualization should remain part of that. Vimage is where the momentum is to get something actually committed in the near future, so I'm especially gearing to work with that - also, I want to use what it has to offer. As for the Verio stuff (that's me), last I heard there's still lawyers involved in slowing things down, but after there will be two steps. One is just showing what we have to give, and then the next more important step is integrating it with the setup I'm working on now, instead of our own like-jail-but-not-quite configuration. Vimage will be in place by then, so this is something for later, but to plan for now. - Jamie