Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:35:00 -0400 From: Matt Garber <matt.garber@gmail.com> To: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins. Message-ID: <97B1D23D-1A22-4002-8FC3-4ACF6986CD44@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5d74a839-50ef-d8c0-b541-15d9b875b7e2@netfence.it> References: <CAOtMX2hA2AfVuNrFxDhXLpY74UAcrWXSd0GjZ1uJJq2vZ5T1qw@mail.gmail.com> <201905151544.x4FFiR0G067138@fire.js.berklix.net> <CADBaqmj5wAP-uG6RmOA_zTgQ1VG%2BT0CyUie3SYks4ooPqPRpOw@mail.gmail.com> <6CE35CEB-C2AB-47B1-AA86-BC9C91B2B8A6@gmail.com> <5d74a839-50ef-d8c0-b541-15d9b875b7e2@netfence.it>
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> On May 15, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote: >=20 > On 5/15/19 6:16 PM, Matt Garber wrote: >=20 >> Exactly. If batching 8 (or more) individual bugs/issues together into >> one release is really causing admin/manpower overload and angst,then >> maybe it=E2=80=99s time in your situation to use the binary updates = (which >> would only be a single `freebsd-update` and reboot, so there would >> be no =E2=80=98sudden unplanned outages=E2=80=99) rather than = tracking src and >> remediating each individual bug at a time. >=20 > Maybe I'm dumb, but I still don't get what "src vs binary" has to do = with "8 vs 1"... > I ran a single "svn update; make buildworld; make kernel; make = installworld; reboot", not 8... >=20 > bye > av. Agreed. But if, say, you were tracking specific svn revisions rather = than just jumping to the latest, I *guess* it might involve 8 separate = builds? I certainly prefer one, batched downtime event to address across all = affected systems, regardless of binary updates or src, and I imagine = most other individuals/companies/organizations do, too. -- Matt
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