Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:41:51 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? Message-ID: <52E4056F.6050307@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20140125183040.GB67763@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <CAHcXP%2Bf6e-t--XbQPTH1goJp_CL7P=zTj5trZVWd4YZ_EsO9gw@mail.gmail.com> <52E2FA36.5080106@marino.st> <CAHcXP%2BfRDeKXjz0_sifgzeXC2dA-eDnoV5NH1yvF2D6R8JRmAg@mail.gmail.com> <52E303CB.6020304@marino.st> <CAHcXP%2Be9p2HrQ=M9HmPecMbWtXRuYPzH9kwfLGqgdrUrhvLuEA@mail.gmail.com> <52E30990.2060903@marino.st> <52E33AA7.3080205@freebsd.org> <20140125174835.GA67191@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <52E40183.3090304@freebsd.org> <20140125183040.GB67763@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
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On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>>> To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything. >>>> >>>> Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface for merging PRs like >>>> for instance github? >>>> >>>> Could ports take PRs in the form of pull requests on github? >>>> >>>> Wouldn't that just turn the number of updates into a few minor clicks? >>>> >>>> (also wouldn't it make it easier for ports submitters)? >>>> >>>> (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes >>>> this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) >>> That would imho be a total disaster, as less and less people will really take >>> care of reviewing the actual patch (lots of commits are already directly from Pr >>> patches without applying some necessary diff for consistency, correctness, Q/A >>> and cosmetic.) >>> >>> >> You are not serious. >> >> You are saying that because the process would be too streamlined that >> quality would be impacted? >> >> That is pretty entertaining. I've seen such positions, but only at very >> large and derpy companies coming from people invested in broken tooling. > I m saying that such tools as they are, are giving awful result, if we are ever > going to that can of direction, we will need to really take time to work on the > workflow and the tools, to make sure this is done a proper way, and no githun is > not doing such things a proper way, I did learn that the hardway with pkgng > developememt which is on github, I do not use anymorr at all their web tools to > do any merge. >>> btw we already have tons of tools available to just merge patches directly from >>> gnats. >> Are any of these tools available on the other side? >> >> Ie, for port submitters? > yes porttools for example, or some scripts inside Tools/scripts > > regards, > Bapt Is there a primer on using these tools?
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