From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 3 08:45:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F112E16A420 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:45:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE9A43D4C for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k238jlAp090073; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 05:45:47 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR To: Mike Jakubik Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 05:45:44 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44077E79.2080708@rogers.com> <200603022333.52835.joao@matik.com.br> <4407B194.5050609@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <4407B194.5050609@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603030545.45427.joao@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh install on gmirror'ed disks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:45:51 -0000 On Friday 03 March 2006 00:01, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Because most Linux distributions have had this feature for a while now. > It's no secret that our installer blows. It gets the job done for a > basic install, provided you know its quirks, and thats it. > I don't think that having or not a raid option at install time is classifyi= ng=20 the installer as behind nor I think it is important. Freebsd's installer=20 probably lacks a nice look but on the other side it is clear and direct and= =20 you get without lots of questions and blabla the system up and running in=20 5-10 minutes what certainly is straight forward and not behind.=20 > > What would be the advantage to have raid as OS install option? > > Certainly such option confuse average users which probably do not know > > what raid is. > > I think the advantage is clear. You don't have to waste time installing > the OS, then going through a complex procedure to setup RAID, and > reinstalling again, i think that would confuse average users more. > Besides, FreeBSD is a server operating system, and is not intended for > average users.=20 > The only advantage I can see is when you really want raid at install time a= nd=20 that definitly is not usual.=20 Even if *your* opinion is that Freebsd is not intended for average users it= is=20 used by thousends of them.=20 Setting up raid with gmirror on FBSD is as easy as dd'ing an image to a flo= ppy=20 disk so I do not see where you wast your time - still less since you do not= =20 need to reinstall the OS again. So who is confused here is you. > If you don't know what RAID is, you shouldn't be in IT. well well, "if you don't know shut up" is definitly a wise comment and help= s=20 people learning ... this thought is so far behind as when people still walk= ed=20 on all four.=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br