From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 19 08:00:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2383E16A4D6; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from thunder.nws.noaa.gov (fs1-nhdw.nws.noaa.gov [140.90.90.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E4143D64; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ash.gokhale@noaa.gov) Received: from [192.168.0.66] (hel [140.90.90.7])ESMTP id QAA14437; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:00:22 GMT In-Reply-To: <1079675230.86745.91.camel@compass> References: <1079648282.405a201a64217@savaka.com> <004c01c40d59$38e8d550$1e0a0a0a@nt.shinawatra.ac.th> <20040319030343.GA21807@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040318222230.F54150@floyd.gnulife.org> <1079675230.86745.91.camel@compass> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <853AE3A7-79BE-11D8-9740-00039383C51E@noaa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ash Gokhale Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:00:19 -0500 To: Tom McLaughlin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) cc: grog@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: Eric@savaka.com Subject: FreeBSD-newbies is a community. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:00:54 -0000 Asbestos underwear aside, FreeBSD is a community that is expanding at all the tiers, from n00b ,operator,admin, developer and finally to "I write interrupt level microcode for God's machine herself, how dare you ask that question on this list, this is clearly a ports problem, uggh!". The best part of the list it is that it belongs to the people who use it moderately and politely. Appropriating the newbie list for a wider range of questions gives people a chance to play with ideas they would not ordinarily be exposed to. People who come to FreeBSD from another unix should appreciate this variety. Real brand new unix/BSD mephits will appreciate good humor and courtesy. I would hate to bug -hackers, or -questions with an OpenSSL upgrade question. And if you have ever read lists from that other "Highly Secure" free BSD that starts with an "O" which originates the said library; You might envision a truly frightened new user. This a great question for this list, we are all newbies. ( excluding people who are busy writing the Kernel ) That said, our successful community will not scold people who don't know where to get the information they seek. We will instead try to help, and buy suggesting different approaches, give everyone learns something different. btw: I would not build _my_ crypto framework from ports. *wink from walden two, Ash.Gokhale@noaa.gov System Administration Lead, NOAA/MDL