From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 31 16:20:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B0A16A41C for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C97043D1F for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050531162041.ZVCP6121.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Tue, 31 May 2005 12:20:41 -0400 From: Vizion To: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:15:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200505310818.45961.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200505310843.07721.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <44fyw3jsip.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44fyw3jsip.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505310915.32333.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tobias Fendin Subject: Re: ftp server frustrating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:43 -0000 On Tuesday 31 May 2005 08:59, the author Lowell Gilbert contributed to the dialogue on- Re: ftp server frustrating: >Vizion writes: >> The real question is why do the timings have to be so tight? What is the >> point of trying to prevent manual use by such low setting? > >It's not a big deal for legitimate users, because you can use a .netrc >file (see the ftp(1) manual). But it does cut down on denial-of-service >caused by automated tools (usually accidental, in my experience). Look not everyone is permanently connected. Not everyone can always use their freebsd system to get the file they need. No everyone is in a position to use those tools every time. Please consider conditions for connections by users who are not land based, orr office based, or permanent connection based, or even freebsd based!!! It is the general problem that concerns me - if I am in some goddamned foreign port trying to get an individual file by a slow ftp connection from my waterproof windows rugged tablet for subsequent transfer to my on below decks freebsd server I do not want to have to be frustratingly disconnected because the typing speed on my tablet is limited! Even automated connections get dropped because the setting are sooooo low - many times when connected I have had a fetch stop due to ftp.freebsd.org unnecessarily dropping a connection due to tight time outs. David -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May/June bound for Europe via Panama Canal.