From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 11 7:27:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BF237B41F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fBBFR0S31522; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:27:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00f901c18258$4e7a10c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" , "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" Cc: "Robert Clark" , References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 <15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org><006901c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com><00d901c17fa0$9d81f800$0a00000a@atkielski.com><20011209144217.A49268@darkstar.gte.net><15379.65514.588658.899404@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:26:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Ninth is what I heard, and supposedly it was a Sony manager who insisted that CDs be long enough to hold it. One naturally thinks of the late, great Mr. Morita, but the source I encountered didn't name the manager, and it might have been someone further down the ladder. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: "Robert Clark" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 15:08 Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. > "Mike Meyer" writes: > > The two constraints I heard are that 1) the player had to fit in the > > cassette/radio space in an automobile console, which provides a > > maximum for the outside diameter, and 2) it had to hold a specific > > Beethoven symphony (the fifth?), which provides a maximum for the > > inner diameter. > > It would have to be the ninth, then. Deutsche Grammophon's 1977 > edition of Beethoven's Fifth, performed by the Berlin Philharmonic > directed by Herbert von Karajan, is just short of 30 minutes - 29:52 > to be exact. I don't have Beethoven's Ninth, but judging from track > listings in the Deutsche Grammofon catalog, it is somewhere in the > vicinity of 50 minutes - not much more than fifty, because the CD it's > on starts off with the Coriolan Ouverture (op. 62), which is just shy > of nine minutes long, and these CDs hover around the 60-minute mark. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message