From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 22 19:30:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06543 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06485; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10163; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:30:05 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <29617.888198284@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:28:30 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: CTM requires a new home! Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, ctm-announce@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:44 PM -0600 2/22/98, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >The current maintainer of CTM services, Richard Wackerbarth, no longer >wishes to provide that service and is looking for a replacement. I >have absolutely no idea what's involved in making CTM deltas but I'm >sure that RKW would be happy to explain the process to whomever steps >forward to fill his shoes. I'm guessing that you need, at a minimum, >a local well-updated CVS tree and enough bandwidth to send the deltas >out on a regular basis. The bandwidth is a minor requirement. Most of the deltas consist of only a message or two. The real requirements are 1) A "production" system that can be relied upon to produce the deltas day in and day out. 2) About 2Gb of Hard disk to support the various versions of the tree that you need to maintain. A MINIMUM of two copies of the ENTIRE CVS tree and 3 source trees. (We could probably cut that back to 2 by dropping the 2.1 deltas) and the master library of the deltas. 3) Enough computing time to produce the deltas. At the moment, I am using about 50% of a P5-90 for 6 or 7 hours per day. >If we can't find a volunteer then CTM services will simply be >discontinued, so if you're a fan of CTM, here's your chance to make a >difference! It wouldn't be as efficient, but the various distributions could be split up and come from different places. The reason that I am quitting is that the burden has steadly grown. I made some suggestions that would greatly cut down on the burden of reprocessing dead material many times each day. Much of the bulk of the tree could be taken from a CD and, most importantly, would not need to be reprocessed all the time. I even offered to implement the changes. However, as is usually the case with this group, the people who get to make the decisions are not interested in my changes. They do not see that THEY get a direct benefit and the changes MIGHT affect them. Therefore, I am making the only change over which I have any control. It guarantees to reduce the burden on my system. Unfortunately it may affect some of you, who, like myself, have no say in the matter. Richard Wackerbarth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message