From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 15 0: 8:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.bushong.net (c128625-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.176.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BBB37B71A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:08:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbushong@firebat.bushong.net) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.bushong.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f2F88Sw82782; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:08:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:08:28 -0800 From: David Bushong To: Mike Harding Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine Message-ID: <20010315000828.F50831@bushong.net> References: <20010310132722.BF1A4113E7A@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010310132722.BF1A4113E7A@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:27:22AM -0800 X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I, too, see this all the time, and have since I upgraded to 3.0 (same machine, have upgraded incrementally to 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 (all -STABLEs)), and have seen this the whole time. Never tracked it down, either... (Just another data point) My machine: PII/266, 128MB memory, P2L97 motherboard (everything else has changed at one time or another) --David Bushong On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:27:22AM -0800, Mike Harding wrote: > > I have seen this behavior a number of times over the years, but never > tracked it down. I even looked at the kernel code which computed the > load to see if I could identify anything obvious. > > I have noticed that when this happes, the load is basically a > completely stable value of 1.0 or very close to it, almost like it is > in a locally stable state. Didn't look for zombies though - I use > junkbuster and it always keeps a few zombies around because the main > spawn loop is screwy. (grrr). > > - Mike Harding > > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:58:51 +1100 (EST) > From: Bruce Evans > X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org > Cc: Mikhail Teterin > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Will Andrews wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > > > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > > > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: > > > top(1) doesn't show all stats relevant to the load average. Check > > vmstat/systat/iostat/netstat/etc. > > Perhaps it is the entropy harvester reaping itself ;-). > > > Besides, the load average is a > > worthless metric if you ask me. > > Erm, it is a fundamental part of the scheduler. The scheduler is b0rked, > but not that part of it. > > Bruce > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message