From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 23 2:17:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-mailhub.dcu.ie (ns.dcu.ie [136.206.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E13037BEFD for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie) Received: from enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (postfix@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie [136.206.15.5]) by student-mailhub.dcu.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3/893-FD) with ESMTP id KAA22278 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:17 GMT Received: by enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (Postfix, from userid 2034) id 09D747CB6; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:15:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:15:46 +0000 From: David Murphy To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Message-ID: <20000323101546.A32653@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <20000321170118.M5367@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <20000322015400.B34538@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <38D86EF7.2595FA9F@gorean.org> <20000322093709.A48595@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <38D9973E.DF9BCB73@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38D9973E.DF9BCB73@gorean.org>; from Doug@gorean.org on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 08:02:06PM -0800 X-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting <38D9973E.DF9BCB73@gorean.org> by Doug Barton : > David Murphy wrote: > > > > Quoting <38D86EF7.2595FA9F@gorean.org> > > by Doug Barton : > > > > > Actually what you see on the web page clearly stated in numerous > > > places is that upgrading from source is NOT for the faint of > > > heart. I can't help pointing out that you still haven't referenced any of these numerous places on www.freebsd.org. > I can't help pointing out that you deleted the part of my post > which did refer you to the official freebsd.org site that clearly > describes the recommended upgrading method. You referenced ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-RELEASE/UPGRADE.TXT, which explains how to perform a binary upgrade of FreeBSD. I made no further reference to that text because, as I (believed I had) clearly explained in comprehensible English, that text isn't anywhere on www.freebsd.org. The manual, in case you're unfamiliar with the new user's general perception of the user manual, is where the new user expects to find the recommended procedures for working on the system. If the manual contains one procedure for upgrading the system, the new user will assume that one procedure is the recommended way to upgrade the system. If the manual contained more than one procedure, it would be necessary for the text of the manual to explicity explain the pros and cons of the different methods of upgrading presented, so that the user could make a decision based on their level of skill between the alternatives presented. However, when alternatives are not presented, when no other upgrade procedures are referenced by the manual, the user will presume that the procedure presented in the manual is recommended and valid for all users. -- When asked if it is true that he uses his wheelchair as a weapon he will reply: "That's a malicious rumour. I'll run over anyone who repeats it." Stephen Hawking - [http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/07/features/features1.html] David Murphy - For PGP public key, send mail with Subject: send-pgp-key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message