From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun May 20 03:50:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F71EF137D for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 03:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED0B86D185 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 03:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id y189-v6so17617869itb.2 for ; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:50:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=13yzScf2iSCGLbS06WMIq9sQKG7cDgIlVbvTAJFbOx0=; b=ttLxDFNzRBlraWdrrMBpvvtytK7+RtQ6kfMY7CuV8dABDZi6NZn7I7Cl+cUL92BER7 9rKWRarn5WXZzmuDtmW1MaGxm0SEQzGhks5rRqiJxWdSZEXpNgNECFFKeKhwfAJln8bR AmdLvrg800J1MeIrz6pbrfIJXUhl+PFDYOxFzQal5prX547FWdRi57A1BOGjmBCjgrog rJW9DRelAldH7k9YVGxo8NJtas8GFGmiAeWbQE3LBonr8CUdWOoQOVhSeZ9X69cJRBG8 Y75wvq20m/iWNwNuP+tiKM25gjsVo8++KPeYrIdBtNI537HosHinqfrGt/jM/c9dxNaD 1YVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=13yzScf2iSCGLbS06WMIq9sQKG7cDgIlVbvTAJFbOx0=; b=SMs+DPMxaSoGf2lpUHZs70YbYoz9KfaHxqbKZFk6RwlHbk4N7vEfifWeIVLC5U/mBj xsP/B0heLGYAjRq1Qkxk2VqWkf/iFwsednmoUg8L7aP85BlaRnA+TJhSus9GdxScDd+y hMwzUJiLOwu8N5hJjbi44KE0yh1C37Lcsp2OH6yBeIsGMOlmDfOl05/WGD6F/79GQ3mE M0DVDFdrsl6GoXtN7Psp7vdtDi1YgIVsyHELn8Li31ZxhonRpA/nnr59kOmBqr0ji/FA yBZGG72HWqJIfuzS7xkVc4/yLXXjUMAGIv0UPDPqy/mKBZjWMSKBNGCKJYTIEKG04tqy 7OqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfXLFaHUap5RFKXkolWtYCgF0H3zjgCA3A6hzpQ9vzniKIHz0q7 hqUveb9ZKrMM1lzRuXDWFv0JtpL8tSf+zrvrnGGVhA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZq4z5VoXTpiexszEVOLn1y38gzQgK/Des/xiuFGDdEhxAlcFKL1pKV9boSHNhk8VcmnPI8r2wZZwTMCAWdj3ZU= X-Received: by 2002:a24:4c55:: with SMTP id a82-v6mr12567371itb.1.1526788243265; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:50:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:a649:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:50:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 21:50:42 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1Cga7q7t_4mGSHfGq9eOBfqkJE Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern To: Eitan Adler Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Poul-Henning Kamp , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 03:50:44 -0000 On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 19 May 2018 at 20:05, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 19/05/2018 21:43, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> -------- > >>>> In message > >>>> > >>>> , Warner Losh writes: > >>>> > >>>> >> > Log: > >>>> >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. > >>>> > >>>> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" > >>>> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost > >>>> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne > >>>> Convention 60 years ago. > >>> > >>> > >>> The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle > >>> of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades > >>>> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this > >>>> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. > >>> > >>> > >>> Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's > useless > >>> at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. > >>> > >>> For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer > >>> ... > >>> > >>> I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the > >>> "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean > previously > >>> (or much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a > meaning. In > >>> sum, and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all > lawyers > >>> would agree on removing the line. > >>> > >>> For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for > new > >>> code, starting here: > >>> > >>> > >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ > committers-guide/pref-license.html > >> > >> > >> > >> Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. > >> > >> While updating documentation, the SPDX guys also point to an outdated > >> version: > >> > >> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause-FreeBSD.html > > > > > > Can you get this updated? > > > >> > >> https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html > > > > > > Not sure where this file comes from... > > Sending freebsd-license.xml > Transmitting file data .done > Committing transaction... > Committed revision 51670. > > >> With the additional mistake that they added the Documentation Project > >> disclaimer to the license: > >> > >> "The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation > >> are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing > >> official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project." > > > > > > Can you get that fixed? > > You want me to remove the disclaimer as well? > Where's that found? Warner