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Date:      Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:56:19 -0700
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        cem@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r310138 - head/lib/libc/stdio
Message-ID:  <1482281779.48539.41.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAG6CVpUBejZQbMEnhq3wp5b-hHy9jhoXY256n1uzHCO4dUD=Cw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 15:50 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> I didn't get the same conclusion from the thread — I haven't seen a
> persuasive argument for removal.
> 
> Best,
> Conrad
> 

You're kidding, right?  Can you cite even a single message that
supports the change?  My memory is that everyone who voiced an opinion
said it was a bad idea, then the thread devolved into discussions of
alternatives and how they were bad ideas too.  That latter bit doesn't
change the basic fact that everyone started by agreeing this was a bad
idea for userland.

-- Ian

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > tl;dr - can we revert it from stdio for now so we don't end up
> > having
> > people use this?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -adrian
> 



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