Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:21:08 -0600 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Message-ID: <061d7c2a-102c-795f-5258-c56d30f6bcaf@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <d8f25ae2-f23c-b750-c626-7c1ea8222885@hedeland.org> References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <CAFYkXjmZi1-MB6W0HsMx9gHek7Xg5heoSKKWkNTnw74dxRTwAw@mail.gmail.com> <ead08f6c-3dc4-210d-b321-549eb0ad721f@malikania.fr> <20200220154101.GA53326@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <1d1cb3e8-ee64-41a7-ac5c-919d3985bd57@malikania.fr> <CAPyFy2A1SP3X1vizjjVDg3ynw5W7Kepf7Dp%2BYO3yMYtfwgr-=g@mail.gmail.com> <d9cad2f9-34ea-7bdd-d5d5-5d0a26512221@hedeland.org> <CAPyFy2AhGhJyPdKb%2BXbdgnS7C0GU459E16Qf0CwfU6u_F%2B1htw@mail.gmail.com> <53C308C2-3537-45B5-A1A4-7945DA603852@kicp.uchicago.edu> <d8f25ae2-f23c-b750-c626-7c1ea8222885@hedeland.org>
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On 2020-02-21 15:18, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2020-02-21 15:12, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> On February 21, 2020 8:07:57 AM CST, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2020-02-20 19:50, Ed Maste wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Modern laptops need an I2C touchpad driver, which isn't in the base >>>>> system yet. It's now available in the ports collection and can be >>>>> built standalone fairly easily; it works fine on my Lenovo X1 >>> Carbon >>>>> 7th generation. >>>> >>>> I'd be very interested in that - can you provide a more specific >>>> pointer than "in the ports collection"?:-) >>> >>> It's sysutils/iichid, added quite recently >>> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/iichid/ >>> >>> I hope it is added to the base system soon; >> >> Not to the base system, please. > > Could you elaborate on that? I.e. do you not want the FreeBSD kernel > to support modern hardware, or do you not want the FreeBSD kernel to > support hardware that is only relevant for laptops/desktops, or...? > > Having kernel modules in ports is problematic, I don't think anyone > can disagree about that (but of course I may be wrong). There may be > reasons to do it anyway, here it seems that it's due to code that > needs more testing/experience and perhaps improvement before adding it > to the base system / standard kernel - seems eminently reasonable to > me. You are right and I am wrong. I stand corrected. Valeri > > --Per > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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