From owner-freebsd-small Sat Jul 22 19:19:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from dopey.unlimited.net (dopey.unlimited.net [209.186.200.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE54737B63D for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norami@unlimited.net) Received: from unlimited.net (ts3-108.unlimited.net [209.186.200.108]) by dopey.unlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07870 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:19:35 -0700 Message-ID: <397A58C2.D77106E8@unlimited.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:30:26 -0700 From: John Oram Reply-To: norami@unlimited.net Organization: norAmi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,x-ns1dzwuwOCyNhP,x-ns2r2809OnmPe2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "list=freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Smallest footprint box?? where to get one? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------59ECDDA9EA120A2181421995" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------59ECDDA9EA120A2181421995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: This came in from a person on the wireless ISP newsgroup mailing list who is looking for a small-sized platform too. Thought some of you might find it interesting. This person is working on an initial order of 500 units. so his price point might be pretty good, especially of some of you were interested too. John Oram Sacramento, CA --------------59ECDDA9EA120A2181421995 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from ns1.up-ramp.net ([216.207.172.2]) by dopey.unlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02566 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:10:46 -0700 Received: from devine (cs160105-253.houston.rr.com [24.160.105.253]) by ns1.up-ramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA30595 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:17:41 -0500 Reply-To: From: "William Devine, II" To: Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one? Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bff421$c23032e0$1600a8c0@devine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <3979FC54.204E29BB@unlimited.net> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 John, So far the smallest box I've found is 10" x 11" x 3.5" and has a Pentium 233, 32Megs DRAM, 6.4Gig IDE HD, 48x cdrom, 1.44M floppy, two realtek 8139a NIC's, PS/2 mouse/keyboard, onboard supervga for $420 . It's more of a small PC and the only two PCI slots it has can be filled with two NIC's (since I'm looking for something that can push a T1 or slower on the outside, the realtek's aren't a problem, but if I needed faster I'd go with an Intel 8255x or 3C905 or something.) Now, I'm talking with JumpTec (www.jumptec.com, or www.emjembedded.com their US distributor) about a tiny box with an AMD K6/2 450, 8MB flash, 32Megs RAM, and their Linux distribution that has the basic utilities, cutdown apache webserver, telnet/ftp/ping/traceroute and IPCHAINS for firewalling, that would work great for what I'm using it for (plug and play miniature firewall with IPSEC VPN capabilities. I've heard there is a picoBSD distribution that has bandwidth shaping, firewalling, NAT, etc that fits on a 1.44Meg floppy so I might be looking at it to use on the 8MB Flash. I'm trying to hit the $200 price point for a machine that can handle a 1.5Meg ADSL or SDSL line for 5-10 machines. I have some NAT boxes (Linksys, Nexland, NetGear) that can do that easily, but they have to be running Linux so I can integrate the IPSEC and our custom web-based firewall management program onto it via a web server. William -----Original Message----- From: John Oram [mailto:norami@unlimited.net] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 2:56 PM To: William Devine, II Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one? William: There are several people on the list including myself who are looking for similar units in quantity of 10 to 20 each units. If you could send me info on what you have found I'll send it along to the list and the other folks who said they were interested. You may be able to pickup some more sales to add onto the order you will be placing. John Oram Sacramento, CA 916-339-2311 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one? From: "William Devine, II" Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:21:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 67 Darren, I had already contacted them, about 2 weeks ago, and got the response this afternoon (quick response.....ahem.) I'm going to be talking with them about this directly, but I also received some VERY good responses and have one in particular, fully populated with AMD K6/450 (or Pentium 233), 32Megs, two 10/100 NIC's (supported under Redhat 6.1), 6Gig HD, floppy, cdrom, 10"x11"x3.5" that can be acquired for ~$400 each. Even if the Netwinder's performance was exponentially larger than this one, I don't want to go over $400 per client. Obviously, in what we're going to be doing, price is one of the SOLE determiners, and the box only has to have a 166Mhz processor to do what we're doing anyway (maybe even less.) William --------------59ECDDA9EA120A2181421995-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message