From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat May 13 16:25:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6432D6B01F for ; Sat, 13 May 2017 16:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org (outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org [52.58.109.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 675C31D2 for ; Sat, 13 May 2017 16:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-User: a1e6d573-37f8-11e7-b96e-2378c10e3beb X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 73.78.92.27 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [73.78.92.27]) by outbound1.eu.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id a1e6d573-37f8-11e7-b96e-2378c10e3beb; Sat, 13 May 2017 16:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v4DGOLRR004128; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:24:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1494692660.59865.85.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r318250 - in head: etc etc/newsyslog.conf.d etc/syslog.d tools/build/mk From: Ian Lepore To: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Ngie Cooper Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 10:24:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 16:25:39 -0000 On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 08:37 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > Author: ngie > > Date: Sat May 13 03:10:50 2017 > > New Revision: 318250 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/318250 > > > > Log: > >   Handle the logfiles in newsyslog and syslogd conditionally, based on > >   src.conf(5) knobs > >    > >   This will allow consumers of FreeBSD to use the unmodified configuration > >   files out of the box more than previously. > What about simply generating proper newsyslog.conf and syslog.conf based > on the the MK_ values rather than change the visible administration > interface that has finger memory, ansible, and puppet support? > The evolution for years has been away from monolithic config files containing a mashup of values for unrelated subsystems and towards .conf.d directories containing many single-subject files.  The monolithic files are difficult to edit and otherwise manage programmatically, and especially difficult to manage in terms of software packaging and software updates. -- Ian