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Date:      Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:05:20 +0200
From:      InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter <jg@internetx.com>
To:        Graham Allan <allan@physics.umn.edu>, =?UTF-8?Q?Karli_Sj=c3=b6berg?= <karli.sjoberg@slu.se>, "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Cannot replace broken hard drive with LSI HBA
Message-ID:  <560A4640.3030200@internetx.com>
In-Reply-To: <5609578E.1050606@physics.umn.edu>
References:  <1443447383.5271.66.camel@data-b104.adm.slu.se> <5609578E.1050606@physics.umn.edu>

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Are there any Serial ATA Drives hooked up to the SAS Controller, maybe
even with an Expander Backplane in between?

Am 28.09.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Graham Allan:
> I have seen this and keep experiencing it. I posted a question about it
> a while back but I don't think there was much response.
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2014-July/019715.html
> 
> My original question was with 9.1, and at the time we discovered that if
> you ran the LSI utility "sas2ircu", for example simply "sas2ircu 0
> DISPLAY", it was seem to ang for a while, then issue a bus reset, and
> the replaced drives are detected.
> 
> Now that I also see the same issue on 9.3, running sas2ircu in this
> situation usually seems to cause a panic, so it's not exactly progress.
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2015-August/006794.html
> 
> I am using Dell servers, generally R710 and R720, with LSI 9207-8e
> controllers, Supermicro JBZOD chassis, and mostly WD drives. I got the
> above problems using firmware 16 (probably) with both 9.1 and 9.3.
> 
> Regarding your experience with firmware 20, I believe it is "known bad",
> though some seem to disagree. Certainly when building my recent-ish
> large 9.3 servers I specifically tested it and got consistent data
> corruption. There is now a newer release of firmware 20 , "20.00.04.00"
> which seems to be fixed - see this thread:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2015-August/006793.html
> 
> This is kind of painful as the new firmware was posted by LSI with no
> comment or no release notes, yet if you follow all the references there
> are hints that it was known internally to be problematic. It's bad if
> selecting the HBA firmware for FreeBSD is degenerated to a "black art"
> but that seems to be where it is right now.
> 
> I don't know that there are any other viable choices for SAS HBA besides
> LSI - I've never heard of any.
> 
> Your bugzilla link is interesting. We are also using WD drives and
> Supermicro enclosures so there is a lot in common. I wonder if these
> changes are in 10.2-RELEASE?
> 
> Graham
> 
> On 9/28/2015 8:36 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
>> Hey all!
>>
>> I´m just giving a shout out here to see if anyone else have had similar
>> experiences working with LSI/Avago HBA's in FreeBSD.
>>
>> For some time now, about a year or so, we´ve had several times were hard
>> drives have dropped out, you pull it out, pop a new back in, but it
>> never shows up in the OS. When inserted, nothing prints in the logs, and
>> physically, it just blinks for a half a second, then nothing. The entire
>> server then needs to be rebooted to get the drive back.
>>
>> As for the hardware, we have several SuperMicro servers, an HP, and an
>> old SUN server that all have this problem. It´s happened with both old
>> and new drives from different manufacturers and sizes. The only thing in
>> common has been the LSI/Avago HBA.
>>
>> The software is FreeBSD-10.1-STABLE as per this[*] bug, very close to
>> 10.2-RELEASE, mps driver version 20 and the firmware has been flashed to
>> 19. Also tried firmware version 20 but ZFS went nuts, displaying
>> checksum errors on just about every disk in the pool.
>>
>> I´ts gotten to the point I´m fed up and have to ask if someone else
>> could think of a fix, since neither software nor firmware upgrade seems
>> to make a difference. Or to suggest another HBA instead?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> /K
>>
>> [*]: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=191348
>>
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