From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 14:58:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31AC9CB9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barracuda.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [69.198.165.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09B1BDC1 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:58:17 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1422197896-08ca0411ac168f0001-z6yBwP Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([10.2.55.1]) by barracuda.ixsystems.com with ESMTP id wWtmbY2YAgUBGAY7 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Jan 2015 06:58:16 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jkh@ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 10.2.55.1 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Received: from [10.8.0.34] (unknown [10.8.0.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A17D88F41; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 06:58:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ixsystems.com; s=newknight0; t=1422197896; bh=IGaVMTZ/va55bICvAUMAEYlqrVCIxEiT6ZT0Y4dz8O0=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=bJL+nWRLcCzrgOVS21NgPpNaOcmiT2zf9zTWWnr0W1XUfgQzWkBbDQeYiUkVa3eON Qe25yV5GyGp3xWlyNvtt98yy2a7x1KeqyKBXTBv/Q/PIOB6Dyhvk7nrdUkAlKQz7Lj XFLZWhHKt0hwgYTqWQtJ9i31+OaCYuK8SSw0oIs4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.4\)) Subject: Re: [RFC] Set the default locale to en_US.UTF-8 From: Jordan Hubbard X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [RFC] Set the default locale to en_US.UTF-8 In-Reply-To: <20150125143243.GB76051@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 06:58:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B1D8345-248B-4C44-9568-079BA29614C2@ixsystems.com> References: <20150124143357.GI81001@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20150125143243.GB76051@zxy.spb.ru> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.4) X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.2.55.1] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1422197896 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: https://10.2.0.41:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ixsystems.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste Daroussin X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:58:18 -0000 > On Jan 25, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov = wrote: >=20 > NO! Please, NOT! > Not all bytestring allowed in UTF-8, as result -- unpedicable failed > execution of sed, grep, vi, ed and etc. Huh. Someone should warn Apple then, since $LANG has been set to = en_US.UTF-8 by default in OS X for years now. I just checked, and = sed/grep/vi/ed/etc all still work. :) It=E2=80=99s a good idea to change it. We have outgrown ISO-Latin1, and = UTF-8 solves a host of ugly I18N interoperability problems when used = consistently. - Jordan