From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:51:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A8E106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D948FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3TJpSEW035403; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3TJpSru035402; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi Message-ID: <20090429195128.GA35383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:57 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:56:00AM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > hello.... > > Well, after all that said, I would like to post my > modest oppinion based in experience from the market.. > > 1) The people who use FreeBSD, or other OS, (the end user) > will never install the OS, the person will turn on the machine > and expects an graphical interface appears in the secreen. > > 2) the Interface should be as simple as possible, but powerfull > enought to fullfill their needs, that is text, email, browsing, > some banking, multimedia (this must be powerfulll...), chatting. > some dvd authoriting, P2P. should access WIFI networks easy too I don't think you understand how FreeBSD is used in most circumstances. As a server, these things would mostly be quite undesirable and an annoyance to have to remove - more of an annoyance than installing then from ports. ////jerry > > 3) the "computer" (computer is the term used by the USER) should > NEVER break, stop working.... That is: the computer (and the Operating > system) should act as the TV set... (remember those old times when the TV set > used to break???) you turn it on, and it works... > > 4) For those who install the OS in the computer, (some 1 in 10.000) people.... > should make it fast and dirty.... I make an installer that install FBSD in 10 minutes > with all the gnome, office, multimedia, with only one of the keyboard... > using ZFS, the system never breaks, is ready to use in 20 seconds... FBSD is installed > in more than 1000 machines running in gas stations... here... > > 5) A beautifull installer is good for the newspaper that publishes a "review" of > the Operating system (they must publish something to "sell" to ...save their job..), > Have you ever heard about a "Leopard" installer??? do you know someone who reinstalled "Leopard"?????? > > 6) I also think that there must be an "fast and dirty" FBSD install. in the distribution > a CD (or DVD) that you put in the machine, it asks where to install and a prompt choosing YES or NO... > the installer formats the disk(partition), do a tar of the FBSD image, with an login of "admin" prompts for > a password, and dumps the os image in the disk using journal or ZFS... > (90% of the machines I installed FBSD have 1GB of memory, 80GB of HD and HDA sound, > INTEL,ATI,VIA graphics board... only 4 brands of NIC). > > 7) I showed FBSD to an "expert" windows guy, and he think it is far more easy to install than > the XP he was using.... besides, it is LEGAL!!! > > Thanks for the Attention, > > Sergio > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"