From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Sun Oct 20 23:36:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981B216E059; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 23:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46xGNw72Z4z4VLT; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 23:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2EBF2A7D6; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 23:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 23:35:58 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: "Tobias C. Berner" Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r514669 - in head: . Mk/Uses archivers/kf5-karchive devel/kf5-extra-cmake-modules devel/kf5-kapidox devel/kf5-kauth devel/kf5-kbookmarks devel/kf5-kcmutils devel/kf5-kconfig devel/kf5-k... Message-ID: <20191020233557.GA4508@lonesome.com> References: <201910171806.x9HI6g9e044915@repo.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201910171806.x9HI6g9e044915@repo.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46xGNw72Z4z4VLT X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of linimon@lonesome.com has no SPF policy when checking 18.222.6.11) smtp.mailfrom=linimon@lonesome.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.922,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lonesome.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.27)[ip: (0.02), ipnet: 18.220.0.0/14(0.13), asn: 16509(-1.43), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[11.6.222.18.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:18.220.0.0/14, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 23:36:01 -0000 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 06:06:42PM +0000, Tobias C. Berner wrote: > This release is part of a series of planned monthly releases making > improvements available to developers in a quick and predictable manner. Ouch. I know it's probably impossible to ask this, but ... is there any way we can limit the rate of change here? e.g. by -devel ports or something similar? Here's my worry (speaking as a powerpc64 guy). The big commit comes in; it takes several days for even one of our fast machines to catch up; then if we find any problems, more time to test patches; then time to submit/process the PR; only after which are the official package builders guaranteed to get the right result. w/rt powerpc64 especially, there are so many fast-moving large changes right now (base system compiler, ports gcc compiler, ports llvm compiler) + x11 + uh, whatever else, that IMHO we are moving farther away from our goal of having a usable package set (especially for ports-head) rather than closer. Your opinion? mcl