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Ip=[66.129.239.12]; Helo=[p-emfe01a-sac.jnpr.net] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR0501MB2067 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2017-11-22_07:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1709140000 definitions=main-1711230000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:18:45 -0000 Warner Losh wrote: > No. That would also give the project's endorsement to it. Gone is 'no > opinion at all' we have. Clearly there is an opinion being expressed; namely that way too many people in the world today, spend way too much time and effort getting way too upset about anything and everything. There is not a topic that you can discuss today that will not offend *someone*. Free speech is on it's way to becomming a myth, thanks to "social media". This thread is just another example. Personally I've enjoyed fortune over the last 30 years or so, but I'm not easily offended, it's demise is a symptom of a great evil.