From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 14 02:13:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765D816A4CE; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A6943D1D; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from heffalump.office.ipnet (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2EAHJee093207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:17:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.office.ipnet (8.12.11/8.12.11) id i2EADB3I063906; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:13:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 12:13:11 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040314101311.GB63843@ip.net.ua> References: <20040314022615.GA21795@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <20040314052944.GA75355@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> <20040314075329.GA3927@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20040314082307.GA80283@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> <20040314093143.GA4906@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040314093143.GA4906@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Tim Robbins cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: RFC: doscmd removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:13:17 -0000 --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 01:31:43AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:23:07AM +0200, John Hay wrote: > > > > > I plan to remove doscmd from the base system for the sole reason = that it > > > > > is no longer useful. Any objections? > > > >=20 > > > > Why would you want to remove it? It is still very usefull. I use it > > > > regularly. The only drawback currently is that the Makefile is set > > > > up in such a way that it does not pick up X during a "make world", > > > > so after a "make world" you have to build it again to pick up X. > > > > Built without X it is less usefull. > > >=20 > > > This is exactly the reason why the source tree is not the right > > > place for doscmd. > >=20 > > That might be and is the reason I asked for the reasoning behind it. One > > reason why keeping it in the tree is good, is because it help pick API > > changes that break it. Out in ports it might take a while to pick that > > up and then it will be the poor user's problem. :-/ Doscmd use parts of > > the kernel that isn't used by many other programs. >=20 > Port compile problems are typically picked up on bento within a week, > and often within 24 hours. >=20 No, the question was rather: how often the kernel gets updated on bento? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov FreeBSD committer ru@FreeBSD.org --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAVDA3Ukv4P6juNwoRAgNIAJwPMmgMwCKu2Uoa30l6pN6cCu1QGwCfVa/0 deoGMbFgPoDQyKMeM+FYb4Q= =C7vl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb--