From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 19:27:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E9C1065670 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmdlnkid@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A788FC0A for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3415859bwz.43 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id :x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version:content-type; bh=o6AucTOY1pi/zRQmduSlYs1wWFQ+HjwdJzFtna3sHsg=; b=r4yqhHXugIb5dFc4gCJm0q27mJFGh1jtOmTVuyNIggyJfyWo5o5w/M+WK5Lp5QSSFc GIUVhL+FM7Ziq9zqwP0JdBquMg1caUU2ozvZyt5i3lBJbWPyvijmdDCjq4L7RRiknGcn HYtpt0F+F7noMHvqymq0WI5+45BewhtJX8X6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=ZqyjvQk0X9i4QTllgUWCvaIvmExV7U+LtfJpvUMjtPn8DhhcXphyBOM4ONXW+cFik4 DB3v2BtBNms8SiwDmT3P20vId42PiM90ElG/Mhgtag891l4uAGhsTATYEvzoJdYCehZw E2GhSuiWeFlVX04L4Cod6rBcuSXg96WORm68E= Received: by 10.204.141.18 with SMTP id k18mr3236661bku.139.1254164375048; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g28sm5135402fkg.15.2009.09.28.11.59.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:59:26 -0400 From: CmdLnKid To: Andrea Brancatelli In-Reply-To: <4AC0C637.4010800@brancatelli.it> Message-ID: References: <20090928120004.6EAF710656B7@hub.freebsd.org> <44843e1b0909280538x217be446q17115d9169c4270c@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0C637.4010800@brancatelli.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0xFAD8B467 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: D197 8B5A C1BC AD25 33C9 16DF 2C68 DCDE FAD8 B467 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 295, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:27:30 -0000 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:20 -0000, andrea wrote: > Il 28/09/2009 14.38, Kevin Hatfield ha scritto: >> The simplest most effective way to grow the FreeBSD userbase is >> indemnification. Large companies that purchase RHEL/SuSE, etc. It's >> not because they "don't know what they're doing" as someone mentioned >> above. Most of the large Enterprise RHEL/SUSE contracts come down to >> indemnification with support being a bonus. >> >> > > I strongly agree and also share my personal experience in deploying a massive > system (3600 distributed boxes) in which Red Hat was adopted and FreeBSD > (even if the project would actually work better under FreeBSD) just becase > "if we run out of ideas we can always call red hat italy". > > This is a huge problem..... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > So basically... Bottom line is we need a stronger commercial support base than what is already implemented. Building upon that maybe more attention should be posed at getting certified BSD professionals into commercial support infrastructure sites that can influence small changes that impact future growth and funding. Personally I am working on a company that is not even 1 city block away from me and at this time they support all forms of Linux and they are a remote IT support type entity that is handling database technologies and VoIP. I am looking at coming on as a BSD advocate to broaden their range of support. If there is any suggestions that I could make as a selling point for a career at a company that does not offer any type of BSD support yet, I would certainly appreciate any feedback and ideas. Best regards "Were Here...." -- - (2^(N-1))