From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Feb 11 20:37:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BF05349B8 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julio@meroh.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Dc7jR3x78z4mQS for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julio@meroh.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 84CC453495F; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ppc@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F453495E for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julio@meroh.net) Received: from mail-qt1-x82f.google.com (mail-qt1-x82f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dc7jR3Bxwz4mQR for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julio@meroh.net) Received: by mail-qt1-x82f.google.com with SMTP id v10so2813582qtq.7 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:37:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=meroh.net; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ib/gCOIuLbV/UPKtlGtjkCNpHAnUyTJ412FQ/60dK+I=; b=cPjPoW2M6MwuNT9GwsgzqhEgIPOAARFPwx+goasYm9WC114uLX74i4Z5RBjGpahEjS A7wjRAg7Uud0oKUycPqKGyQayo0sxxjY+4GBbJhyf0o+qUlz2ehyDIET+O5kRKKbLqP1 g35D8T5hJQxathyxDSHx8wvsmz/vNhRWKN3p8SXiiSi3Rmh2FSzVvApe1uEhLOKg+o09 scLdCI815qMXpnWIuEMHtwQpko3+jnXeceOckQaD8txM0mIlSXb0fRVWI3KMgS8Xofup FwxC9QmdWAy3JmD+1ysZw1FtdDSjDCznjNhb0risN2R8sviezsV//l70qR7+NSCjxLpQ C8xA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ib/gCOIuLbV/UPKtlGtjkCNpHAnUyTJ412FQ/60dK+I=; b=G8HcARXgB75iO11h6d0cM1hObQTzSmBnJxKndi31jsPa0W7EwwvKKfPAwfJe02sR98 RaOTWuAzSqywRsjaDe0GYwvQcndh7xeAqvmOMbipfSUFnUvUs+/I3GopGBFzyCWfezSE e96zXzlDhvBbmsQwYDopgTDbffZBf+QKkIZsDE8R+GXMXLiW4be2lQlCbqRK1CgFx+35 cY1riNHakrhNPqDo9BJYT+He7Q3QbCEjFLMuwYN/mGeiAU1v4IxceHOAZyJjXfegqfUJ DdI/ufmXzF+FYMv68cSbh/7DPk8qme1rhASYBRNQHlLwfCYJ5uf7M+QnN0QtYuEsngRK m7Sw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533hpSCj7xS1KRY7BckLEAO9Q3cs1de7zVNOMYyDJArVDuXxgkhD akAIkjMV8nAUJSKq5yIvX961ueJGrMyFCu9S8y8AZ7vg3Mqx20Mt X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwC4++rLSalkL3/WoPBBGJciE5Gq6WjK7E0gQYf4sDQCjBfry5MhZhIE6mS46MNRVYKaiarY0pk33+IP8Tg08o= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:24cd:: with SMTP id m13mr10442503qkn.273.1613075547083; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:32:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210210223920.GA31353@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20210210223920.GA31353@lonesome.com> From: Julio Merino Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:32:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how many users of FreeBSD 12 do we have on powerpc? To: Mark Linimon Cc: ppc@freebsd.org, pkubaj@freebsd.org, linimon@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dc7jR3Bxwz4mQR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 20:37:31 -0000 I have a PowerMac G5 (that I got recently) currently running 12. It was an awesome experience to install the system and quickly get going with "pkg install" right after; wasn't expecting binary packages to be available at all. I want to upgrade it to 13 but the last attempt at trying this release's installer failed to boot... need to try again; we'll see. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:14 PM Mark Linimon wrote: > So I want to get an idea if we can start trying to move FreeBSD/powerpc* > users from 12.X to 13.0 once 13.0 is released. > > The problem is that we have limitations on: > > - hardware resources w/rt building ports on 3 branches > > - human resources trying to support 3 branches > > The powerpc ports team (the entire handful of us) is talking about > dropping ports building for 12-STABLE in favor of starting to build > 14-CURRENT. > > How many people will this affect if we do so? > > fwiw, I personally believe 13.0 will be a complete superset except for: > > - ports that fail due to duplicate_symbol > > and all of those are problems shared with even amd64. > > (Also, I personally believe that it is fair to say "we do not really > support powerpc* on 10.X or 11.Y. Please upgrade.") > > How many people will these changes effect? It's time to speak up ... > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- jmmv.dev