From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 6 14:27:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AB716A41F for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D1943D64 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q2so82120uge for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eeJztIWurve+ItJ8BjDA9KD4s4kY5e1Q0RB/TulSmabktzfkHmG0UaAs7OAYPONjCnqg5D7ZmxwuN8xPabhQn9/YvIkK9GQ06Zy94DbZU+1AwWzQf5JrR/1q09X7k1o9QWuBMFPUtaq2zZTxMjqpGF8LBS8bXOOjH4tuvbRmOpw= Received: by 10.78.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr33884hua; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.31.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:27:10 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" In-Reply-To: <44350FDF.1060206@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405211154.GA30089@soaustin.net> <44350FDF.1060206@gmx.de> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Alexey Karagodov Subject: Re: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:27:13 -0000 On 4/6/06, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > > > Alexey Karagodov wrote: > > hi. > > i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to ma= ke > > two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they > > supporting old version, lower then 6.0 > > i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you do= n't > > finish old, 6.0 ?! > > finish 6.0, make it work, and upgrade it to 7.0 and to 8.0 and to 9.0 a= nd so > > on ... > > what so new and revolutionary in 7.0 in comparison with 6.0 ?! > > to use your system i must be a DEVELOPER, but i don't have so much time= ! i > > don't want to develope! i want to use, i want to help you with some adv= ise ( > > e.g. what feature to add, what feature to change etc), i can and i want= to > > share some of my hardware to feet your needs, make a mirror, make a tes= t > > server/workstation/notebook/PDA etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. i'm = just > > admin and a user. > > your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is > > SOLARIS. > > but your's is so unstable ... > > All this is described in many places. It all comes down to this: if you > don't want to be a developer, JUST USE THE RELEASE BRANCH. That means > Releng_6_0 for now. > > Stable only means compatible to previous versions of the same branch. > Not that the system is stable. Maybe they/we should change the name of -STABLE to -APISTABLE or -ABISTABLE. I've always had to go out of my way to explain what -STABLE is to newbies that assumed it was stable.... changing this name should keep them off the developer branches. oh and we should change -CURRENT to -THISWILLBREAKYOURSYSTEM for all those Gentoo Linux type people. :-) 1 bad experience is equal to 10 good ones. -- BSD Podcasts @ http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/