From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 21:14:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE478881 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 21:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMAIL5.netenterprise.net (imail5.netenterprise.net [64.29.90.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0C22DD1 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 21:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id ac2f0004ee86f633; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:14:31 -1000 Message-ID: <53E53DB2.8040609@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:14:26 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Benfell Subject: Re: Touchpad issues References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 21:14:34 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel rôle of >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, >> & I have >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 >> in my /boot/loader.conf >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. >> >> I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it >> does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables >> under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit >> touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while >> typing is a bad habit anyway. >> >> I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- >> ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to >> test it. >> >> > Do you allow hald to run at all? If so, how do you tell it to ignore > the mouse? If not, am I overestimating the difficulty of dealing with > hot-plugged USB devices? > > When I am on the road, I will sometimes plug a trackball mouse into > the thing. It's *much* easier to deal with than the touchpad and it's > USB. > > As for sensitivity, that's my problem. If my wrists are within six > inches of that touchpad, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, it's > liable to move the cursor and sense a click. Text winds up getting > typed in completely the wrong places--which is a real problem when > you're a Ph.D. student writing 20-plus page tomes. > > To maybe--only maybe--limit this, I would have to type with my hands > held vertically, which is unlikely to be healthier or preferable > technique to letting your wrists drop. ;-) > > thanks! > Aloha, I have a Linux HP net book and I cant go near the touchpad or it clicks. I contacted HP and they said they know this happens with some people. The small switch (iluminated white) above the pad can be depressed to deactivate the pad. They tell you to use a USB wireless logitech mouse. This works fine. ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol