From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 5 00:35:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7057258 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 00:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64E131FBE for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 00:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id wn1so10391065obc.34 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:35:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=d/o0v3gpBJOdISqeWQSyR730Y1xuHUWkb0KXKc7Jlv8=; b=PdscexF+0F2AhwG93PG9a3dRpIL5FoI0yb5TuiKzogbQFu+WcZRM4jicz2o6h4iclx 3XW5fwslnOwY3PXl4e1y7kNpk2VZ4XRiINXusAsk/TB8QBhsODvCu9uA3ETFr6zFD2RM pOIhLHLdpIpW7+a0VSPomeklBjBluFO7Zldwt/9xK/BJCGcOArDLrG8S2hzsvg+iaUfR 077AwQtjjy0p7U/Qlb6JQfL+Xt9Rsb9FG1iyooyABxp6E8EkqYKgJOBnuP1EHJy3K7A4 dhKoaYGbOgysBcqEKPPuIekcroAZqiJaSPuupuaE2H21GMbfp/ID8tnhpqET2ZuuvZZG ztNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlrRJLScrb6fsgAl0ahR9qUAo5b3gnis/zvXqGaqsxCYY/Q/1r56acZEj1HKIhdrao/TG9+ X-Received: by 10.60.80.137 with SMTP id r9mr38913464oex.30.1391560524195; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.21.0.93] (67-198-60-238.static.grandenetworks.net. [67.198.60.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qe2sm45200078obc.1.2014.02.04.16.35.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:35:17 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: opteron a1100 arm From: Jim Thompson In-Reply-To: <52F179C6.2050400@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 18:35:15 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1391538649.19169.79261269.3C5F49D1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <493DEB39-C4B4-409E-B8B2-B1B11E013754@netgate.com> <20140204223528.GF23872@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com> <60985.1391554164@critter.freebsd.dk> <52F179C6.2050400@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: Thomas Zander , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, =?windows-1252?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= , Baptiste Daroussin , Poul-Henning Kamp X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 00:35:25 -0000 On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Nathan Whitehorn = wrote: > On 02/04/14 16:49, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com>, = =3D?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?=3D w >> rites: >>=20 >>> Think about how much power interconnects takes, PCIe and everything = else.. >> Not to mention the raw savings of avoiding all the crap that has >> been nailed inexpertly onto the X86 platform over the years... >>=20 >> Did you notice that "X86 arduino" Intel just launched ? >>=20 >> Does anybody but me cringe at the thought of an Arduino with UEFI, = ACPI, >> microcode updates and SMM ticking away in the background to make sure >> it doesn't run too hot ? >>=20 >=20 > This AMD platform has UEFI and ACPI, so that's at least 2 out of 4... > -Nathan The =93X86 arduino=94 (=93Gallileo=94) has a Quark 1100 SoC running at = 400MHz. It implements a 32-bit Pentium instruction set and has a TDP of = 1.9W - 2.2W. I don=92t think it=92s going to =93run too hot=94, and yes it runs SMM, = UEFI and ACPI-compatible sleep states.