From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:48:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920E116A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4A43D1F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:48:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpressey@catseye.mine.nu) Received: from catseye.biscuit.boo ([154.20.76.195]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.netSMTP <20041130224817.PNFY24672.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@catseye.biscuit.boo> for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:48:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:51:30 -0800 From: Chris Pressey To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041130145130.0aa893f1.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: References: <20041129024602.GA23324@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> <1101748454.41ab58e61eb88@imp2-q.free.fr> <1101788709.41abf62519b57@imp2-q.free.fr> <20041130002603.692153b7.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> Organization: Cat's Eye Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The beastie boot menu. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:48:18 -0000 On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:24:40 +0100 Brad Knowles wrote: > At 12:26 AM -0800 2004-11-30, Chris Pressey wrote: > > Highest performance? Most stable? > > Easiest to use? Most featureful? Fewest bugs? > > Yes. OK, then someone in charge should write that down, as part of the official docs, assuming core agrees. > > Most accessible? > > What do you mean "accessible"? And by whom? Do you mean > handicapped-friendly? Do you mean moron-resistant? > > > Most > > conformant > > to standards? > > Which standards? > > > Plays nicest with other OSes? > > What do you mean by "nicest"? Which other OSes? Maybe all, maybe none - the answers to those questions are all up to TPTB to decide and make explicit. > > Largest package system? > > That's a side-effect, not a direct goal. It could quite easily be a goal if it's what the project leaders want. > [...] > I would think that the term "power" would be pretty obvious. I would disagree; it's certainly open to far more interpretation than, say, "fastest" would be. "Powerful" certainly doesn't mean "stable" or "correct" in the dialect of English that I use - can I assume then that these two goals would take a backseat to that of raw performance? (If yes, write it down; if no, write _that_ down... all I'm saying is, stating *some* philosophy will put the project in a better position than just assuming it's obvious and hoping everyone else has made the same assumptions that they have.) > [...] > I'm sorry, I just don't see the source of confusion. I don't > see the floundering. Do you follow cvs-src@? -Chris