From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 10 05:08:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B8E16A571 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1473113C465 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so376338nfc for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:08:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sm2cYf98avrxMSsKy/nvvb6DuU5M3SSXknRxMxnGSRvSbktZjc7kXRFyS1mL0sEQ25zXaB4QD0+uR55vMIbkv5EevjgZsP9isZjtj9W7+cv2fakSX+ZSntkMhwTxdzEZ/0dDRZpZLc4Wb4//x7pUhBb4WlaMF1/H+Uh7hArM8mY= Received: by 10.82.184.2 with SMTP id h2mr3095505buf.1168405683801; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.134.19 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:08:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:08:03 -0800 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Nikolas Britton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <45A42CF3.4000600@u.washington.edu> Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:08:06 -0000 Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation. I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for fsck'ing a SAN filesystem, I wonder how quickly I can bone up on Linux. In ten years at Network Appliance..wanna know exactly how many FreeBSD host installs ive seen besides Yahoo? 2. How many -non- Linux SAN configurations? Probly 80% of all SAN I see and work with are Linux based. Fbsd NFS client performance is 1/3'd that of a tuned linux box, can you say ../..? If you can, you know what its like to never have a valid directory attr cache on your mounts. (ick) Automount...dont even go there. Im in this for the long haul..I like Fbsd, and as long s lynx and apache still work on it, im happy. As for the future..I just dont see much serious future there unless it grows up. Rememer when Linux couldnt do _crap_ and Fbsd 2.5 was the bomb? I do...I want like to see that again. On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 1/9/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > > Don't know about some of the items, but... > > -Flash support with Mozilla products is being done through Mozilla's > > ActionScript Engine: > > . > > So, I expect the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player to be supported > > on all Unix platforms to some extent in the future. Sound support will > > be interesting though. > > But I use Opera?? And It needs to work with youtube, without crashing > and without install headaches. 'cd /usr/ports/www/flash; make install > clean; exit;' then open browser to youtube.com and go. No library > shuffle or libmap configuring. > > > -Isn't Xen handled by the Xen project and not FreeBSD? > > Yes, and they have done their part. Now it's FreeBSD's turn to > integrate the changes needed to the kernel into the kernel to make > Dom0 support work. Linux has it, Solaris has it. NetBSD has it. Mac > has it? FreeBSD does not have it. Server virtualization is the next > big thing and FreeBSD has nothing going for it in this respect... Not > even VMware or any of the other big players works with FreeBSD as a > host OS. > > > Seems like your comment (was related) but off-topic. > > It is off-topic... don't really care at this point. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >