From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 09:39:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B1E16A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail14.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBC643D4C for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) iA79d8ob014822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:39:10 +1100 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])iA79d8xP018518; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:39:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)iA79d71m018517; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:39:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:39:07 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Samuel Tardieu Message-ID: <20041107093907.GK79646@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <418C0EED.1060301@freebsd.org> <87oeibnp4r.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87oeibnp4r.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and onwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:39:15 -0000 On Sat, 2004-Nov-06 13:22:28 +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote: >Wouldn't it also be a good time to reevaluate the development system? >New free software revision control systems such as GNU Arch are now >mature and could be used precisely for this kind of things. > >For those not knowing it, let me introduce GNU Arch by small examples >of what you can do with it: [ feature list elided ] What facilities are there to replicate the repository (ala CVSup or CTM)? Publishing the repository is all very nice but doesn't help someone who wants off-line access. Can it manage renaming files/directories? How does it handle 3-way merging? Does it support merging branches back into the mainline without duplicating the branch content? What advantages does it have over CVS and/or Perforce? How would you like to provide some real results of running GNU Arch against the FreeBSD CVS repository: - time to convert the FreeBSD CVS respository into an Arch repository. - size of the resultant Arch repository. - time to checkout HEAD src - time to checkout RELENG_3 src - amount of metadata associated with the above checkouts - time to tag "src" or "ports" (eg for a release) - time to checkin a 1 or 2 line change in one file - time to checkin a large change (various changes in say 50 files). -- Peter Jeremy