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Date:      Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:04:40 -0400 (AST)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        <Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: a very dumb backup question
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.31.0101032003580.672-100000@thelab.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <14931.48360.311640.703454@guru.mired.org>

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On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

> Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com types:
> > I have a number of freebsd boxes up that I've been backing up over the wire
> > using samba shares and nt backup software.  In my ignorance as a newbie I
> > didn't know if sticking a tape drive in the servers and using tar to
> > perform backups would catch open files.  In my somewhat lesser ignorant
> > state as a familiar freebsd guy, I still don't know so I figured I'd ask.
> > Will open files (web pages, etc) be backed up to tape using tar?
>
> Yes, they'll be backed up. Whether or not they'll be useful is another
> question, that depends on what's going on in the open file.
>
> This is the reason for wanting a file system quiescent when you back
> it up. Historically, you do backups in single user mode to insure
> that. Practically, the open files will have dates more recent than the
> backup date after it finishes, so it's reasonable safe for
> incrementals so long you don't hit the case some file being open
> during backups every day.
>
> Final comment - I'd recommend dump instead of tar, especially for the
> root file system, because historically it's tracked changes to the
> file sysystem and special files better than tar.

And, if you are dealing with multiple machines, I'd definitely recommend
using Amanda ... starting using it a few months back and it makes backups
sooooo much smoother ...




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