From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 2 21:19:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62351065673 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E568FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 20006 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jun 2009 20:51:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (24.42.224.110) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2009 20:51:25 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 38EEA2841F; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:51:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:51:25 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Ruben van Staveren Message-ID: <20090602205125.GA75470@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <4A257B82.1000701@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:41:04 +0000 Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do you use a value other than AUTO for network_interfaces? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:19:28 -0000 On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:30:46PM +0200, Ruben van Staveren wrote: > > On 2 Jun 2009, at 21:20, Doug Barton wrote: > > >Up till Sunday in 8-current, and for a long time in general > >network.subr (part of the rc.d system) has emitted a warning that > >values of network_interfaces other than AUTO are deprecated. I > >removed that warning in HEAD Sunday, and there is no a discussion > >about whether or not it should be put back, and whether or not there > >is any need for the user to specify the list of network interfaces at > >all. > > Well, I do. > > I only want to configure only the interfaces that are connected and > that I know about. especially in combination with IPv6 there is a nit > that you'll get autoconfiguration for all interfaces unless they are > all explicitly configured. And while I'm not currently using anything other than AUTO I would think there is a security ramification if someone were to plug in to a supposedly unused port, then reboot the machine to prompt AUTO to configure their interface. Its not just a security thing, its an "idiot-proof" thing. If someone is moving machines around I don't want them to come up and partially work if the wires are plugged into the wrong holes. Would rather it be completely broken. I think its good that there is an AUTO *option*. Is also OK that it be the default. I don't think mandatory AUTO is good, if I want a port disabled then I want it to stay disabled. A quick glance of my 7.2-STABLE machine only found network_interfaces used in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. ipv6_network_interfaces is used in many places. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.